Question about A/V reciever and Lsi15s

kolyan2k

i am thinking about buying LSi15s, however, the only reciever i currently have, is my roomate's 5hitty Techwood (Kenwood with Technics i believe) the specs are: 100watt per channel (5 channels) @ 8 ohms. will this be alright for now? it will not damage the speakers, right?

thanks

aaharvel

kolyan2k wrote:

i am thinking about buying LSi15s, however, the only reciever i currently have, is my roomate's 5hitty Techwood (Kenwood with Technics i believe) the specs are: 100watt per channel (5 channels) @ 8 ohms. will this be alright for now?

thanks

absolutely not. ditch the kenwood and get separates. or at the very least a receiver from adcom, nad or b&k.

cfrizz

Do a search here on the forum for LSI's & receivers. You will get your answer very quickly why this is a bad idea.

ohskigod

oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!
underpowering = far more dangerous than overpowering.

kolyan2k

i don't know much about audio......why underpowering? it's 100 watt per channel.

and another thing is this: if i get 2 mono blocks from outlaw, do i still need a reviever to have a stereo setup?

tonyb

OH BOY. Dude,not enough power is a bad,bad,bad idea.100 watts of a AVR
is totally different than 100 watts from a dedicated amp.Please don't make us have the whole discussion on distortion and what it does to your speakers,how you get it and why.AVR must have pre-outs to use a seperate
2-channel amp.Find a used Carver on EBAY for a couple hundred bucks so you don't fry a good set of speakers.It's all about quality of the watts not quantity.Have you searched this forum for info? The LSI line is a bit power hungry and you should get 200 watts min.to power them if you want to hear what they can do.Will you hear sound if you hook them up just to your receiver? Yeah,not the best sound and when you crank on the volume
the whimpy amp section inside your AVR will start to distort and you can say by-by to those beautifull speakers you just plucked your hard earned cash
down on.
If WE SEE A THREAD ABOUT A BLOWN-UP LSI 15 BYYOU.ALL OF US WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND ****-SLAP YA!!!!!!:)

cfrizz

YES! Please get those Outlaw monoblocks! Your receiver & speakers will thank you.

BTW, your receiver has to have preouts in order to hook up the amps. So check that first. Better yet, start by getting a decent receiver first.

What kind of budget do you have for this project? That would help us to guide you in the right direction.

kolyan2k wrote:

i don't know much about audio......why underpowering? it's 100 watt per channel.

and another thing is this: if i get 2 mono blocks from outlaw, do i still need a reviever to have a stereo setup?

kolyan2k

I can probably get a pair of used LSi 15s for about $750, but i will only be using them in 6-9 month. are they even worth buying now? later i am planning on buying Denon AVR3806 or even better reciever, but right now all i got is this Techwood crap w/ no pre-outs. and like i said i will also be buying 2 or 3 outlaw mono blocks. i just cannot afford a $1000 dollar reciever and really don't wanna spend $200 on a reciever that i will have to through away later.

so i can buy the speaker and not use them for 6-9 month or i don't know......

maybe i can get AVR3806 without mono blocks right now. at least i will not waist couple of hundred on "not so good" AVR

cfrizz

That's a good price on LSI's. But you really can't play them loud on a receiver without putting them at risk.

Tough spot you're in!

RoosterD

I would buy the speakers now, and a decent used amp to power them ($200 er so). Then in 6-9 months when you have the money for the 3806, put the $200 amp on Craig's list and get your money back. You will get it back too. Even if you only get $160 back, you only paid $40 to listen to the LSi's for 6-9 months. I would do it. They sound amazing. Then in an additional 6-9 months order a decent dvd player like the 3910 or something of the class.

To give you an idea of what the distortion is like, I have had an Onkyo 313pro (60W/ch) since 1992. I had it hooked up to a pair of Infinity RS525 (150W) speakers. I always had to turn the bass down on the amp or run capacitors to limit the low frequency because the infinity's would pop and distort with too much bass; (I assumed) the speakers couldn't handle it. You can imagine my surprise when I finally got my 3805 last year and hooked up the infinitys to it and they handled the amps power just fine; bass and all. Needless to say I ended up blowing one of them from normal use. Be very careful with that technics/kenwood/sherwood whatever it is receiver and ANY speakers let alone Polk LSi15's.

cfrizz

His receiver has no preouts, so getting an amp right now won't do any good.

kolyan2k

cfrizz wrote:

His receiver has no preouts, so getting an amp right now won't do any good.

yeah.....so i guess the only good option is to either wait and not buy anything or get a good reciever right away 3806 or maybe even 4806 (don't know if its worth extra)

and i read here that LSi15s sound alright on 3806 and mono blocks can wait

Skynut

It is rough starting out.
I got my first good speakers (RT2000p) and had a sony receiver to drive them. Whenever I tried to crank them up the sony would go into protect mode. Lucky for me because I don't think I did any damage to the speakers.
Also lucky for me I found this site and learned the error of my ways.

Fwiw it took me around 3 years to complete my first decent HT.

cfrizz

The 3806 will be fine or even a lower cost Denon that has preouts. The main concern is that you will really have to watch the volume since the LSI's are very demanding speakers. You crank the volume you will put your receiver into protect mode (at best) (at worse you will blow your speakers!)

kolyan2k wrote:

yeah.....so i guess the only good option is to either wait and not buy anything or get a good reciever right away 3806 or maybe even 4806 (don't know if its worth extra)

and i read here that LSi15s sound alright on 3806 and mono blocks can wait

.Jon

dude it will be fine. just do it. the lsi sieriers is ver efficient and can be driven very loud on 10 watts

amulford

sure, fry his AVR...

.Jon

im doing it right now on a radioshack x200. 15 watts and i cant here myself think

DollarDave

I am here and you can't "hear". Two different meanings.

.Jon

your wrong

DollarDave

Wrong that I am not here? Or, wrong that here and hear mean something different? I didn't mean to imply that you could not hear. Since this is an audio forum, you probably hear quite well (not good).

.Jon

LOLLLLl

BeardsOfCanada

What if I cannot hear and I happen to own many polk products? What if I like the way they hold my beer mug whilest I watch the tele and the rich smell that comes off them when I use them as firewood?

DollarDave

I guess as long as you are drinking Moosehead or Molson (and are with a fine lady) you are problably okay.

Frank Z

.Jon wrote:

im doing it right now on a radioshack x200. 15 watts and i cant here myself think

You seem to be confusing "Loud" and "Good." Sure any POS flea market receiver can send a signal down the wire to virtually any speaker, but that doesn't mean it's going to sound good...or even acceptable.

The LSi speakers are capable of stunning sound quality, but just like a computer, garbage in=garbage out.

We're done here.

.Jon

LOL. some people dont know what unimplied sarcasm is. x200 isnt even real i just made it up hahah

BeardsOfCanada

Well, I am actually a bathtub gin connisseur- that's how I lost my hearing. The doctor says I'm lucky not to have lost my eyesight as well, and I'm sure happy I didn't. Without my eyes I could never stare into the eyes of my lover, my identical twin brother. He, however, likes Infinity. I make him leave those over in the other section of the shed, near the chairs made of human skeletons.

jayman_1975

dude you're makin us look like a bunch of hillbillies

Frank Z

.Jon wrote:

LOL. some people dont know what unimplied sarcasm is. x200 isnt even real i just made it up hahah

Unimplied = not implied
Your command of the spoken word is......well, pathetic.

I foresee a Speak & Spell in your future.

tonyb

Now I know why there are so many threads on blown speakers.............

.Jon

I thought it was a dead give away when i said i couldent hear myself think with 15 watts from a made up radioshack model.

cfrizz

.Jon, Kolyan2k was asking a serious question, which dictated a serious answer. Those speakers cost a considerable amount of money & having them get blown by being fed inadequate power is simply not a good thing!

If you want to joke around go to the clubhouse and have fun. But if someone is asking for help, especially an inexperienced newbie, be respectful enough to take them seriously & give them the right information.

No one can hear your joking facecious tone of voice over the internet. That's why winky smilies were created!