this is not political, its just disgusting

ohskigod

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sheehangrave.asp

didnt see this in the press, hmmmmmmmmmm. unless I missed it

Skynut

I think she
Cant
Understand
Normal
Termanology

aaharvel

She chose not to get a headstone for her son’s grave because she didn’t want tourists getting their photos taken next to it, and she wanted to respect the privacy of others who visit the graveyard for their own personal reasons.

Give it a rest, the woman lost a son for godsakes.

ohskigod

why would a gravestone make a difference from the plaquard that is allready there. the grave seems to not be a secret, and I really dont think throngs of people would go to get there picture taken next to it. If that is the reason, why is she blaming everyone from the cemetary to the memoriall home for the problem? you did read the whole thing right?

ohskigod

political viewpoints aside, if you think all of her actions are for noble causes, then your just missing it? She is high on the attention, plain and simple. hey, it can happen to any of us, so I try not to cast to many dispersions, but mark the grave for Christs sake, I think the kid deserved it.

Skynut

Personally I think she got a "high" from being in the spotlight.
I think she is making money being in the spotlight.
Sure she should be grieving but I think she has turned this into a career.

I feel for her loss but I do not like her.

ohskigod

I found her lighting up the mortuary guy, who apparently laid out some (probably not alot) of his own cash to get the job of the burial done, to be particularly interesting.

aaharvel

Skynut wrote:

I feel for her loss but I do not like her.

My thoughts exactly. I feel for her loss, but she's become way too radical for any level-headed American imo. However, that doesn't mean i'm going to go out of my way to suggest that she might not care about her son simply because there's no grave marker. Who am I to know? What business is it of mine? None. Again, the woman lost a son. I, nor any of us have any business judging her. Liberals shouldn't use her as a political tool, and conservatives shouldn't be hating on her just because they like Bush or support the war. This is the stupidest thread of all time.

bikezappa

All worthless opinions.

Empty barrels make the most noise.

ohskigod

its not a question of judging persay, but it is a GLARING example of losing site of whats important. I have no question she moured the loss of her son. I do think that her rantings and actions to date have SERIOUSLY skewedher ability for ration and logic. Speak out? sure, but dont lose sight of whats important. Its important to stay grounded, which as mean as it may sound, Ms Sheehan most certainly did NOT. Calling a spade a spade here.

P.S. I have some conservative friends who would disagree with you calling me conservative


stupidest thread of all time?, cmon dude, did you miss all of Polk LSi's threads, Bretts Milk threads?, i barely made the top friggin 10

aaharvel

ohskigod wrote:

stupidest thread of all time?, cmon dude, did you miss all of Polk LSi's threads

that's an excellent point.

bobman1235

Sky,

I'm a big fan of "can't understand normal THINKING".

criverajr

If it's a stupid thread, why post in it?

ohskigod

criverajr wrote:

If it's a stupid thread, why post in it?

very straight and direct "Jersey" Logic

dorokusai

aaharvel wrote:

She chose not to get a headstone for her son’s grave because she didn’t want tourists getting their photos taken next to it, and she wanted to respect the privacy of others who visit the graveyard for their own personal reasons.

Give it a rest, the woman lost a son for godsakes.

Why on earth would someone travel to that location for a photo op? It's not F'n Jim Morrisons' gravesite....ridiculous.

RuSsMaN

Ed Zachry.

I'd like to tommy gun her ****.

aaharvel

dorokusai wrote:

Why on earth would someone travel to that location for a photo op? It's not F'n Jim Morrisons' gravesite....ridiculous.

why not ask her yourself? That's her reasoning not mine.

MacLeod

She's a stupid **** that is an embarassment to her sons memory and as far as Im concerned, she's as much a traitor as jane fonda and michael moore! Going over to Venezuela and trashing Bush and this country while sucking up to that little dictator wannabe in a time of war. F**K her!

Skynut

MacLeod wrote:

She's a stupid **** that is an embarassment to her sons memory and as far as Im concerned, she's as much a traitor as jane fonda and michael moore! Going over to Venezuela and trashing Bush and this country while sucking up to that little dictator wannabe in a time of war. F**K her!

zactly

dorokusai

aaharvel wrote:

why not ask her yourself? That's her reasoning not mine.

I don't recall saying it was your reasoning Mr. Magoo.

brettw22

ohskigod wrote:

stupidest thread of all time?, cmon dude, did you miss all of Polk LSi's threads, Bretts Milk threads?, i barely made the top friggin 10

Simple cause/effect people........my threads had a purpose.......to demonstrate how effin moronic it is to bombard everyone with threads that are all about the same mindless crap then **** on those that respond.....:D

aaharvel

dorokusai wrote:

I don't recall saying it was your reasoning Mr. Magoo.

i know that, just wanted to be sure is all. i'm simply trying to convey what her reasoning for it is. I'm jaded with her position, at least now that she's gone so far damn radicial, but hell that's her position..

George Grand

I think you can pass judgement on this lady when you bury one of your own children.

bikezappa

George Grand wrote:

I think you can pass judgement on this lady when you bury one of your own children.

That is not an empty barrel statement.

Demiurge

I think I can pass judgement on the **** when she exploits her son who didn't share her views.

George Grand

You sir, do not have an inkling.

ND13

Hmmmm.....I thought it wasn't up to us to JUDGE anyone. We can agree or disagree, but not judge.

bobman1235

bikezappa wrote:

That is not an empty barrel statement.

What is this empty barrel thing? Afraid I'm not familiar with that... um... idiom.

Demiurge

George Grand wrote:

You sir, do not have an inkling.

Really, George? Does every Mother and Father that lost a son or daughter fighting in foreign wars for our country get to have their mugs plastered all over the TV and Newspapers just because of the fact? Would they even want to? No. Do they all have a right to see the President of the United States? We've all got a connection to some type of personal tragedy, it doesn't absolve you of personal responsibility for your speech or your actions.

I think most people genuinely felt sorry for a mother that lost a son, and that was that. Once you put yourself out there blabbing a bunch of political rhetoric that piggybacks on the man's death (politics he didn't share, BTW) it's open season for criticism. The reason most people think she is a scum sucking leech is because she's using her son as the stepping stone for all of her commentary and personal advancement -- things he didn't stand for.

George Grand

You sir, don't have an inkling.

Your qualifier to judge her is what? Because her beliefs are not yours? Because it's not what YOU would do? Or is your qualifier that you have access to the internet? Hell, we'll never know what YOU would do. Unless of course your qualifier is that you nurtured a child through life, only to have that life ended tragically and prematurely by what YOU consider to be a senseless war. She's not hurting you, and she's not hurting this country. She's the only thing that is hurting as a result of her son's death.

dorokusai

I think there's quite a bit of judgement and pre-judgment that happens in this forum every day, regardless of this particular subject.

I don't care for her, never will and that was, the last time I checked, my right to do so.