Hell has indeed frozen over.

BIZILL

not much of a following, thank God!

Polk65

Worth reading (and donating to) again.

"Motorcyclists Roll to Soldiers' Funerals" Patriot Guard Riders

SWFalken

Man, those asshats came to my town last year. Stirred up trouble for about a week prior to a soldier's funeral. When they threatened to show up at the funeral, a group of bikers and angry oil workers threatened to end their time on earth and they promptly left town! I swear, it makes me mad enough to fling poo when ignorant self absorbed people trod heavily on the feelings of the least self absorbed people that this world will ever know.
:mad: JB

ND13

Toxis wrote:

The third, my brother and I held hands and skipped right through the middle of them chanting that we're **** and brothers and proud.

What a wierd place to come out of the closet.;)

tommyboy

I definitely don't agree whats going on in Iraq right now. But if everything that lady said is true, isn't God "punishing" the wrong people? I would think bush and Hussein would be the one who would be "punished by God." and I still don't understand why some christians are so against homosexuals. If its true that **** go to hell, then why in the hell do the protesters care, GET A LIFE! They need to stop worry if others are **** or not and worry about their own (which this lady should do the same because she has some serious mental issues:) )

ohskigod

do these guys ever come to Jersey? I've said it before, I honestly would have a hard time seeing them get out of my neighborhood alive....well......at least without a thorough #ss whoopin.

aaharvel

tommyboy wrote:

I definitely don't agree whats going on in Iraq right now. But if everything that lady said is true, isn't God "punishing" the wrong people? I would think bush and Hussein would be the one who would be "punished by God." and I still don't understand why some christians are so against homosexuals. If its true that **** go to hell, then why in the hell do the protesters care, GET A LIFE! They need to stop worry if others are **** or not and worry about their own (which this lady should do the same because she has some serious mental issues:) )

you think that's something.. I'm waiting for the total re-write of the bible again. Aside from there being four different gospels telling four different versions of the same event, Jesus's life, now the Gospel of Judas has been found. hehehe... should make for some interesting conversations at the Sunday School table.

MrNightly

aaharvel wrote:

you think that's something.. I'm waiting for the total re-write of the bible again. Aside from there being four different gospels telling four different versions of the same event, Jesus's life, now the Gospel of Judas has been found. hehehe... should make for some interesting conversations at the Sunday School table.

Total Re-write of the bible again? Where do people find their information anyways?

And four different versions of the gospels?? I guess you have never had someone tell you a story, and then someone else tell you the same story but from their perspective. That's why there are four different versions. There were four different people, a Doctor, a Fisherman, a Brother and a lawyer who all told the story from their perspective.

As for the gospel of Judas, the Bible has been Canonized for over 1500 years... It's not getting re-written.

aaharvel

MrNightly wrote:

And four different versions of the gospels?? I guess you have never had someone tell you a story, and then someone else tell you the same story but from their perspective. That's why there are four different versions. There were four different people, a Doctor, a Fisherman, a Brother and a lawyer who all told the story from their perspective.

"Gospel." Meaning unwavering in unquestionable truth.. according to the dictionary.

Unwavering in GODS Perspective or ours?

So on that thought which of the gospels is indeed "the gospel"?

Very questionable indeed..

VR3

Im not trying to stir the pot...

In the bible it clearly states that you are supposed to hate the SIN, not the SINNER.

Any Christian that dosnt like you because of who you are is nothing more than a hypocrit(sp), whether they want to admit it or not.

tommyboy

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:

Im not trying to stir the pot...

In the bible it clearly states that you are supposed to hate the SIN, not the SINNER.

Any Christian that dosnt like you because of who you are is nothing more than a hypocrit(sp), whether they want to admit it or not.

I want that lady to be asked that question just to see what she says...

MrNightly

aaharvel wrote:

"Gospel." Meaning unwavering in unquestionable truth.. according to the dictionary.

Unwavering in GODS Perspective or ours?

So on that thought which of the gospels is indeed "the gospel"?

Very questionable indeed..

Actually your entire debate is based on flawed principals. The Gospel, the way it is used in regards to the first four books of the New Testament doesn't mean, "unwavering in unquestionable truth." It means, "The message of Jesus Christ coming to earth, dying for the sins of mankind, and raising from the dead." So to say as you have, that the meaning of the word, "gospel" is unquestionable truth, and therefore you cannot have 4 versions is just not correct. The 4 different versions/books, as stated before, reflect four different views of the same story.

Regarding the authenticity of the scripture, just take for a moment this simple fact: The New Testament (NT) was written around 40-60 AD. It was based on the first hand experiences of those that were with Jesus. Fast forward to about 300 AD. The scripture was Canonized by the Roman Catholic Church. It hasn't changed since that time... in fact, when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, it was popular believe that the errors of the Bible would be seen. What was actually found, was that there is now over 5000 documents that date back to 40 AD and ALL agree with the Bible that is in print today. After 2000 years, the NT hasn't changed at all. No other manuscript in the history of the world has as much facts behind it to prove it's truth, yet still it is the most hotly debated piece of literature ever printed.

Interesting isn't it?

ND13

Don't debate the Bible with an agnostic.

No offense Andrew.:)

min888

This lady loves GOD so much, would somebody please help her out and expedite her wish of meeting him

aaharvel

MrNightly wrote:

Actually your entire debate is based on flawed principals. The Gospel, the way it is used in regards to the first four books of the New Testament doesn't mean, "unwavering in unquestionable truth." It means, "The message of Jesus Christ coming to earth, dying for the sins of mankind, and raising from the dead." So to say as you have, that the meaning of the word, "gospel" is unquestionable truth, and therefore you cannot have 4 versions is just not correct. The 4 different versions/books, as stated before, reflect four different views of the same story.

Regarding the authenticity of the scripture, just take for a moment this simple fact: The New Testament (NT) was written around 40-60 AD. It was based on the first hand experiences of those that were with Jesus. Fast forward to about 300 AD. The scripture was Canonized by the Roman Catholic Church. It hasn't changed since that time... in fact, when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, it was popular believe that the errors of the Bible would be seen. What was actually found, was that there is now over 5000 documents that date back to 40 AD and ALL agree with the Bible that is in print today. After 2000 years, the NT hasn't changed at all. No other manuscript in the history of the world has as much facts behind it to prove it's truth, yet still it is the most hotly debated piece of literature ever printed.

Interesting isn't it?

i was making fun of how people say something is "gospel" , something is "the gospel truth". I was making fun of the term, and how the gospel truth is never referred to as "the gospel truthS", which in reality is funny b/c there is more than one gospel. I think that's funny is all. I'm not trying to unearth a history lesson here. lol

MacLeod

This is precisely why I think it should be legal to shoot protestors.

aaharvel

MacLeod wrote:

This is precisely why I think it should be legal to shoot protestors.

right square in her face.

Toxis

I'm telling you... suicide bomber!!!

Plus, maybe the bible has 4 different versions because it's nothing more than stories writen over the years from different people and then voted on by the church on which ones go in the bible and which ones don't. Hmmm... look into it.

I pray to the easter bunny that she gets pimp slapped.

joeparaski

Notice that she has the classic LUNATIC look in her eyes....wide open and doesn't blink much. If you ever see any videos or interviews with cult leaders, they all have the telltale LUNATIC look about them. Brainwashed and mentally disturbed.

aaharvel

joeparaski wrote:

Notice that she has the classic LUNATIC look in her eyes....wide open and doesn't blink much. If you ever see any videos or interviews with cult leaders, they all have the telltale LUNATIC look about them. Brainwashed and mentally disturbed.

reminds me of Ann Coulter.

MrNightly

Toxis wrote:

Plus, maybe the bible has 4 different versions because it's nothing more than stories writen over the years from different people and then voted on by the church on which ones go in the bible and which ones don't. Hmmm... look into it.

What? This doesn't make any sense Todd. What are you saying? Not trying to pick a fight, but common, this is a very uneducated thing to say don't ya think?

schwarcw

The demonic eyes!:eek:

swerve

one number and one word

five head

Toxis

Sorry Nightly, but no. Its true. That's how the bible was made. By the church who voted on stories to include and which ones not to. Why do you think there have been so many discrepencies in it? Contradictions left and right. It was a book written as more of a way to teach people how to treat each other (motivational almost) but over the years, thanks to many Kings of Europe, it became "fact." I was raised Catholic and have done some research on it, not a ton but enough. Why do you honestly think they keep coming out with all these new artifacts that contradict other parts of it?

1996blackmax

I just saw that clip........ :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



It is very sad to see how far stupidity can go. That woman's (can't use the word lady) behavior is disgusting . It is one thing to disagree with something, a whole different thing to do what they are doing. I really feel for the military families that have to deal with those idiots.

Ron-P

There is such an easy answer to this. When it's time for the 21 gun salute, just point in their direction.

aaharvel

Toxis wrote:

Sorry Nightly, but no. Its true. That's how the bible was made. By the church who voted on stories to include and which ones not to. Why do you think there have been so many discrepencies in it? Contradictions left and right. It was a book written as more of a way to teach people how to treat each other (motivational almost) but over the years, thanks to many Kings of Europe, it became "fact." I was raised Catholic and have done some research on it, not a ton but enough. Why do you honestly think they keep coming out with all these new artifacts that contradict other parts of it?

bingo.

Ron-P

That's how the bible was made.

Really? Not what the Bible says about it.

2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is inspired by God….”

2 Peter 1:20-21 “know this first of all, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, … but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”

Why do you honestly think they keep coming out with all these new artifacts that contradict other parts of it?

Examples would be nice.

brettw22

I sense bad things are about to happen.........

VR3

There is not one part in the bible that "contradicts" itself...