green/red/blue vs red/white/yellow

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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    Aren't they? Helped me out like I couldn't believe! I had no idea what I was missing out on... my eyes have been opened.

    Thanks a million guys, I don't care what they all say, I think you are the best. :D
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    MrNightly wrote:
    I don't care what they all say, I think you are the best. :D
    One down - everyone else to go.... :D

    Michael
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    :D Hey, is this a good buy? Would this be a good enough Digital Coax for me?

    http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?threadid=13491

    Also, I saw some Digital Coax at HD today, like 8 bucks? Is this totally not the right stuff?
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    Close, but unless your DVD player has an optical output - it won't work for you. (It is digital - Optical, not Digital - Coax)

    I am sure your 3805 has both inputs, the question is, does your DVD player have both outputs? (if it does - it will work just fine)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    Ahh. The DVD player that HTrookie gave me has Digital Optical. My cheapo doesn't, only coax. I might just pick it up because it looks like a good price, and i will probably need one down the road anyways.

    Thanks Michael :)

    Oh ya, I was gonna ask, which is better optical or coaxial?
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    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    MrNightly wrote:
    Oh ya, I was gonna ask, which is better optical or coaxial?
    You get arguments on either side. It may even depend on the player (and pre-amp or AVR) involved. I would say whatever your player and AVR supports. If they support both, I would probably go with coax from a reliability/durability standpoint.

    They both work well.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2006
    I can't take credit for the long post/explanation i posted earlier.. i copied and pasted it.. but had i written it.. it's exactly what I would have wrote. :p
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2006
    That was obvious... you can't spell that well and are not this funnny...
    Pigments of your imagination, you might call them. (Sorry.)

    :p
    More later,
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2006
    Tour2ma wrote:
    That was obvious... you can't spell that well and are not this funnny...

    :p


    Why i outta.... :p


    Just wait.. when you're not looking.. i'm going to sneak into your house and unplug all your gear. and set it to mono only.. and un bi amp everything you got on top of that. and rewire it with crusty old Monster cables. :eek: :p

    Have a nice day.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited April 2006
    disregard...
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    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,508
    edited April 2006
    danger boy wrote:
    If you are just getting into home theater.......

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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited May 2006
    I have a component video input on my sony tv but have s-video running from all my components into reciever than using monitor out to tv. I always had the impression that when it comes to SD tvs, there is a minimal difference between s-video and component(I know component is still better). I bought s-video cause it was the much cheaper route. Well my obvious question is... Is there just as much difference between component and s-video as there is with composite and s-video?
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2006
    I don't think there is that much difference between S-video and component video. where component video reigns over S-video... is in the true colors.

    One animation movie that came out several years ago was used as a demo for a while... i think it was Antz. Anyway.. when you view the movie using S-video hook up.. some of the subtle colors get lost. When you use component vidoe hook up.. the colors are real and true. I remember reading an article on the true colors used in the movie.. but that when used with an S-video hook up.. the colors were not true and accurate.

    I know that's not the question you asked.. but for quality of picture.. I believe that S-video is pretty close to component. (Yes i know component is superior to S-video).
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited May 2006
    thanks for answering danger boy,

    one last question(sorry). Is it true that using your reciever as a video switcher lowers picture quality? Someone I know who I feel knows his stuff pretty well said he heard that somewhere.
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
    Gamertag: kovster27
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2006
    tommyboy wrote:
    thanks for answering danger boy,

    one last question(sorry). Is it true that using your reciever as a video switcher lowers picture quality? Someone I know who I feel knows his stuff pretty well said he heard that somewhere.


    tommyboy,

    in older recievers I'd say yes.. it has another component the video signal has to travel thru. and who knows what added noise that can add to the final picture you see on your display.

    todays receivers/pre amps have improved quite a bit.. and most all offer no degrading of the picture quality.

    Basic question to ask yourself.. if a person uses a low end receiver, it may degrade the picture quality. A high end receiver or pre amp will not improve the pq. it can't.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,983
    edited May 2006
    Holy crap!! I'm tired just from reading Dangerboy's 1st response.:)
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  • jayman_1975
    jayman_1975 Posts: 672
    edited May 2006
    did anyone tell him to check in his DVD player settings to select bitsream instead of pcm? I noticed that it will play both through a digital cable but when i changed to bitstream the sound was waaaayyyyy better.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited May 2006
    danger boy wrote:
    I don't think there is that much difference between S-video and component video. where component video reigns over S-video... is in the true colors.

    One animation movie that came out several years ago was used as a demo for a while... i think it was Antz. Anyway.. when you view the movie using S-video hook up.. some of the subtle colors get lost. When you use component vidoe hook up.. the colors are real and true. I remember reading an article on the true colors used in the movie.. but that when used with an S-video hook up.. the colors were not true and accurate.

    I know that's not the question you asked.. but for quality of picture.. I believe that S-video is pretty close to component. (Yes i know component is superior to S-video).

    I'd have to second this, after using some component cables for about 2 weeks or so. I did a side by side comparison on several movies (Finding Nemo, Matrix, Stir of Echo's, LotR FotR...) and let me tell you... the colors were remarkably different. Take Nemo's orange color for example.. BIG difference from s-vid. And the moss on the bombs in the Shark scene was deeply green as opposed to the slight green from S-vid.

    Component just made them shine, whereas S-vid seemed to dull everything down a bit. I didn't notice any difference in Sharpness so to speak, but only color. I was expecting to notice a huge Sharpness upgrade, with better details (see the leaves on the tree better and all that jazz) but didn't at all. But for the color alone, it was a worth upgrade.

    Again, I am not running a HDTV either, so that could be a limiting factor.
    Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
    Stuff...

    RTi12's - front
    CSi5 - center
    FXi3's - surrounds
    RTi4's - surrounds
    SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub :D:D:D
    Denon 3805
    Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier

  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2006
    That's a pile of info guys. I just want to ensure that I follow this and have my system connected properly.

    1) Digital cable coax from the wall to the digital cable box.
    2) Three composite cables (RGB) going from the back of my TV (Panasonic 36" TAU) to the DVD player (Panasonic DVD-RP56).
    2) One video cable (RCA - Yellow) from the back of the TV to the digital cable box.
    3) Two RCA cables (Red & White - Audio L / Audio R) from the digital cable box to the processor (Proceed AVP-S)
    4) One fibre cable from the DVDP to the Processor.

    This was the way our cable guy set it up and I was confused why I did not have a video cable going from the TV to the Processor. The Proceed AVP has an on-line menu system that I should be able to see on the TV, but since there is no connection, how could I. DAH! I mentioned this to the guy and he just said forget it, I am connecting it properly. Not sure if I require any additional cables at this point.

    The Panasonic DVDP has a switch for 480p, but not sure if the TV has this funtionality. I did not see anything in the manual.

    Thanks for the help folks.

    I do have the ability to use S-Video, but am a little confused whether I should be using this.
    Michael ;)
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