Second Sub???

wingnut4772
wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
Hey guys...first off I love my SVS PB12/U2 BUT......I don't know if it's me or my room but I am extremely sensitive to bass localization. Even with a flat response via the Velodyne SMS-1 EQ. My SVS is in the best possible position right now for available space vs response but I was wondering if it might be worth the while to add a second sub in the front left corner behind the LF LSI15. I am not about to get another PB12 as it is WAY too large and expensive so I was wondering if there may be a smaller sub that might go nicely here..or am I just insane?
Sharp Elite 70
Anthem D2V 3D
Parasound 5250
Parasound HCA 1000 A
Parasound HCA 1000
Oppo BDP 95
Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
Totem Mask Surrounds X4
Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
Sony PS3
Squeezebox Touch

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2006
    If you are running 15's, you should have the PB passed around 40Hz, no? If you can localize that, you've got a special gift broham.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2006
    I have it at 60 actually...and yes my ears are crazy. I am one of those weird people that can hear that high pitch that TVs make ..even with the sound turned off. I guess I have to thank Oscar Goldman for that....:p

    Do I lose anything if I cross it at 40???? I have tried that but I was always worried that I would miss some bass info. I know the 15s have a lower db of 35 or so but what about the 9 and the LSI Fxs ...?????
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    Do I lose anything if I cross it at 40???? I have tried that but I was always worried that I would miss some bass info. I know the 15s have a lower db of 35 or so but what about the 9 and the LSI Fxs ...?????
    I have to assume he meant cross over your fronts at 40hz and all other speakers at 60hz. (If available on your preamp) 40hz is to low a crossover for your 9 and Fx's.

    Another option is to get 2 pc-ultra subs (box or tube - whatever fits for you best) and sell your Ultra2.

    Do you have any options for an IB sub? (any closets or other rooms that you can use for the backwave of the sub) If so, that may be your best option. (and cheapest while keeping good bass). If you are thinking of moving soon though - that would kill that idea.....

    Michael
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    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2006
    Unfortunately my pre only has an option for a single crossover. Is bass info that low sent to the center and surrounds?
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2006
    Hey guys...first off I love my SVS PB12/U2 BUT......I don't know if it's me or my room but I am extremely sensitive to bass localization.....I was wondering if it might be worth the while to add a second sub in the front left corner behind the LF LSI15.

    Are you sure that what you are hearing really is bass localization and not just bass frequencies resonating off of objects near the sub?

    I am not clear on how you think adding a second sub will help you.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2006
    Yeah...I am going to try it at 40 for a while....I think I am just going nuts I guess.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • race4aliving
    race4aliving Posts: 12
    edited April 2006
    I had the same problem with mine and was able to tame it by using the phase control. xing over at 40 tighened things right up too and when we watch movies I just bump the cross over back over to 60. thanks for cross over info everyone.
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