Which SVS (PB-10 or PB-12)

MattN03

I have attached a .PDF drawing of our living room that contains our H/T system along with a few pictures (two are before I got the RTi8's). I talked with Erik @ SVS today about getting a PB-10 and he suggested that I may want to step upto the PB-12 because the room opens into other rooms. He asked that I provide an overhead view and he would be able to give me better recommendations. I value everyones opinion here too, so I'm open to suggestions. The PB-12 is really about all I want to spend on a sub-actually more than I want too, but I don't want to upgrade if we move into a larger home a couple years down the road.

I appreciate the feedback.

Shizelbs

Go big or go home. I have yet to hear someone say they bought too much sub from SVS.

MattN03

Shizelbs wrote:

Go big or go home. I have yet to hear someone say they bought too much sub from SVS.

lol, that is what I've read here before.

Shizelbs

MattN03 wrote:

lol, that is what I've read here before.

And for good reason.

MADGSF

If you can swing the PB-12 I would get it. Of course I am of the bigger is better camp of subwoofers.

schwarcw

Definitely PB-12. I have one and my room is the same size as yours. SVS won't try to oversell you, they want sell you the right size. Good customer service and return policy. Go for it!

wingnut4772

Yep. Go 12 if you can afford it.

MattN03

schwarcw wrote:

Definitely PB-12. I have one and my room is the same size as yours. SVS won't try to oversell you, they want sell you the right size. Good customer service and return policy. Go for it!

So how do you like it? Is it enough sub?

MattN03

Any suggestions on placement for the sub? Are there any problems placing it directly behind the right RTi8 near the fireplace?

Shizelbs

That would be a good place to start. Only experimentation (which is the fun part anyways) will be able to tell you what works best in your room.

halo

PB-12 or a 20-39 PCi

MattN03

Erik said a PB10 would probably be fine in the room now, but wouldn't be able to handle a larger room in the future as well as a PB12. I'm definately leaning towards a PB12. Does anyone have links to reviews on the 12? Does it have a textured finish-it almost looks like Rhino Lining for truck beds?

It looks like the 20-93 PCi has cloth/carpet finish. Is this right? I don't think I want anything else I have to use the Dustbuster on

halo

No dustbuster required with the 20-39 PCi - nothing sticks to it (not even cat hair). It's lighter than the PB-12 (save a little $$$ on shipping + it's easier to move around than the box subs). I'm biased - I have one and I love it.

MattN03

Halo wrote:

No dustbuster required with the 20-39 PCi - nothing sticks to it (not even cat hair). It's lighter than the PB-12 (save a little $$$ on shipping + it's easier to move around than the box subs). I'm biased - I have one and I love it.

How does the P20-39 PCi perform compared to the PB-12?

halo

PB 12 VS. PCi 20-39

20-39 PCi - "The best of both worlds. These subs go nearly as low as the bottom trolling SVS 16-46's, and have nearly the sheer sound pressure level capability of the mighty 25-31's."

PB-12 - "Sometimes folks attracted to the performance of the world-famous PCi subs just couldn't get comfortable with their cylinder design. So after a long process of developing an affordable enclosure offering "Made in the USA" quality – it's here. The PB12-ISD is the affordable "box" sub with the components you expect from SVS (virtually identical to the PCi)"

I think the 20-39 hits a little deeper (16Hz in-room response vs. 18Hz with the PB-12) - but I could be wrong - call SVS to confirm.

The reason I went with the cylinder is because it's cheaper (after you factor in shipping), it's easier to move around, goes a little deeper, and it had the WAF.

Either way you can't make a mistake here. Don't forget about the 25-31 PCi too - better than a PB-10 IMO & le$$ than the PB-12 or PCi 20-39.

kingsqueak

The cylinder might look odd, but don't underestimate the ease of moving and placing one...

And do experiment with placement, a few inches can actually make readily audible differences depending on the room.

I wound up placing my 25-31 PCi about three feet to the left of my Left channel and almost a foot out from the wall. It looks much less out of place to me as a black cylinder than one of the big boxes would.

I love my sub, I'd really be surprised if you could do better for the money than an SVS or maybe a Hsu in the same price range. I've never felt like I needed more power which is saying a lot as I expected I would at the price I paid.

MattN03

Halo wrote:

PB 12 VS. PCi 20-39

20-39 PCi - "The best of both worlds. These subs go nearly as low as the bottom trolling SVS 16-46's, and have nearly the sheer sound pressure level capability of the mighty 25-31's."

PB-12 - "Sometimes folks attracted to the performance of the world-famous PCi subs just couldn't get comfortable with their cylinder design. So after a long process of developing an affordable enclosure offering "Made in the USA" quality – it's here. The PB12-ISD is the affordable "box" sub with the components you expect from SVS (virtually identical to the PCi)"

I think the 20-39 hits a little deeper (16Hz in-room response vs. 18Hz with the PB-12) - but I could be wrong - call SVS to confirm.

The reason I went with the cylinder is because it's cheaper (after you factor in shipping), it's easier to move around, goes a little deeper, and it had the WAF.

Either way you can't make a mistake here. Don't forget about the 25-31 PCi too - better than a PB-10 IMO & le$$ than the PB-12 or PCi 20-39.

Well, I have to say I like what I've read about the 20-39 PCi. It's the same price as a PB12 and is cheaper to ship. It sounds like the 20-39 PCi outperforms the PB12 to boot (atleast from what this newbie has figured out! ) Decisions decisions. Both are also on backorder till the 1st of April so that gives me a few more weeks to save & research.

Joey_V

I say.. go BIGGER or go home. I say stop peddling around and get the PB12+/2.

louhamilton

I was considering the PB-12 or the 20-39 and after talking to SVS, they actually recommended the PB-10 for my room size and configuration.

They definiately do not seem to try to oversell.

Now I'm just saving up for one.

-Lou

Joey_V

Then go PB10. Good luck!

Ron Temple

A nice thing about the cylinders...they can be hidden. Couldn't pass WAF with the box, so said f**k it and order the water heater. Since I don't see it everyday, I'm still not used to it.

halo

My wife likes the 20-39 PCi LINK or THREAD

MattN03

Halo wrote:

My wife likes the 20-39 PCi LINK or THREAD

I found that thread in a search earlier today & found it very useful. Thanks for posting it