Speaker Cable Suggestions?

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited March 2006 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I'm looking for a short run (4 ft.) of bi-wire speaker cables. I'm currently using a pair of 8 ft. AQ Bedrocks. They're great. I'm considering modding a single 8 ft. Bedrock cable and turning it into a pair of 4 ft. bi-wire cables. I sent an email to Audio Advisor to get a price for re-terminating my cable, but haven't received a response yet. Alternatively, I can sell the AQ Bedrocks to finance another pair of different cables. My budget ceiling is $150 new or used. I've checked audiogon and ebay, but no luck yet. Short runs are hard to find. Any ideas?

Thanks.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2006
    2 sets of Kimber 4TC?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited March 2006
    Short runs are hard to find. Any ideas?
    Probably because most cable companies feel that 8 feet is the minimum length needed to obtain optimum preformance.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2006
    F1nut wrote:
    Probably because most cable companies feel that 8 feet is the minimum length needed to obtain optimum preformance.

    Really? I can understand why cable companies would say that -- $$$$$

    If that's true, maybe I should keep what I have and add a separate cable for the highs. I thought the conventional wisdom was the shorter, the better.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited March 2006
    Well, it might be some of that too, but I think it has more to do with inductance, etc. I also think that the shorter, the better refers mainly to a situation such as 10 feet is better than 50 feet.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,200
    edited March 2006
    Most speaker companies will make a 4 foot run. Transparent does as I have Installed many amp right to speaker wires. Amp stands holding monoblocks right next to the speakers.

    Try Transparent but your spendig limit is a bit low to go that route.Sell your bedrocks and add that money to your budget.

    You can also try calling Audioquest if you like your wires now and see if they can sell you a pair or where you can buy what you want.

    Dan
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  • louhamilton
    louhamilton Posts: 209
    edited March 2006
    Buy an 8 ft non-bi-wire run, strip a section in the middle (don't cut it in half) and you will have a bare wire connection in the middle with two 4 foot ends. If you don't want a bare wire connection, invest in the type of connector you would want, i.e., banana, spade, or pin. Instant bi-wire.

    -Lou
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited March 2006
    Huh?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2006
    F1nut wrote:
    Huh?
    Ditto.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2006
    louhamilton, trying to get a mental picture of your bi-wire suggestion,could you be a little more specific,as I'm dumb and slow:)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2006
    george daniel wrote:
    louhamilton, trying to get a mental picture of your bi-wire suggestion,could you be a little more specific,as I'm dumb and slow:)

    I think this is what he is referring to...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited March 2006
    Ah, thanks Shack Daddy. That may work on some cables, but definitely not something one should do with the higher end types.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2006
    F1nut wrote:
    Ah, thanks Shack Daddy. That may work on some cables, but definitely not something one should do with the higher end types.
    Agreed. We have ghetto bi-amping...could this be a ghetto bi-wire?
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited March 2006
    mantis wrote:
    Most speaker companies will make a 4 foot run.

    Right. My 4' double biwire AQ Dragons are factory cables.

    EB: If I didn't have so much going on right now I'd make your biwires for you. I used to this as a side line/hobby and have done work like this many times before with AQ cables and still have everything on hand to do so in a professional looking manor. Only a month ago would been a different story...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited March 2006
    shack wrote:
    Agreed. We have ghetto bi-amping...could this be a ghetto bi-wire?

    And a new audio term is born. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2006
    BobMcG wrote:
    EB: If I didn't have so much going on right now I'd make your biwires for you. I used to this as a side line/hobby and have done work like this many times before with AQ cables and still have everything on hand to do so in a professional looking manor. Only a month ago would been a different story...

    Damn, McG, why you gotta be such a tease? What's it gonna take for you to free up a few minutes to hook up some AQ bi-wires real quick for me? How much? PM me.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited March 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Damn, McG, why you gotta be such a tease? What's it gonna take for you to free up a few minutes to hook up some AQ bi-wires real quick for me? How much? PM me.

    You've been PM'ed.
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