sr6500 vs DSL iridium

jabcon
jabcon Posts: 25
edited March 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
Just bought a new truck I will installing a new system to replace the factory sounds. I have narrowd my search down to thease two. sr6500 in front with the same in the back and a 10" polk sr sub or dsl iriduim 6.3 in front with 6.2 in back and a iriduim 10" sub. Amps will be either sr polk or dsl ultimates.
the truck is a 2006 Dodge ram quad cab. Any opinions or sugestions much appreciated. By the way my last two trucks had polk speakers straight to the receiver. By the way I like blues and old rock and I spend about 4 to 6 hours a day in the Dodge.

John
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    So Polk is coming out with some SR amps?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    :confused: How do you get anything about amps out of that? :confused:
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited March 2006
    audiobliss wrote:
    :confused: How do you get anything about amps out of that? :confused:
    From this....
    jabcon wrote:
    Amps will be either sr polk or dsl ultimates.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    Oh, lol. I completely overlooked that. Well, I think it'd be awesome if Polk comes out with an SR series of amps, but if he knows they are, he must have one good source!
    Jstas wrote: »
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  • 1zach4
    1zach4 Posts: 21
    edited March 2006
    i'm not trying to sell anything, but honestly sr6500's are hard to beat, and if the rest of the Signature Reference series from polk is even remotely on the same level then I would say stick with them.
  • jabcon
    jabcon Posts: 25
    edited March 2006
    I herd this from a buddy who went to the ces

    john
  • 1zach4
    1zach4 Posts: 21
    edited March 2006
    sent you a pm jabcon
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2006
    The 6.3s are better than the SRs IMO, but not by much. I like the smoothness of the Polk tweeters but i like the crispness and detail of the Iridiums better. Midrange is a big plus for the iridiums, but they also have a seperate midrange driver whereas the Polks dont, two different leagues. Its hard to compare a 3-way set to a 2-way set.

    DLS' ultimate amps are pure SQ all the way, theyre beautiful amps.
    -Cody
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    A 3-way setup does sound sweet.
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  • jabcon
    jabcon Posts: 25
    edited March 2006
    Cody I am kind of leaning towards the dsl's first because I agree with you the sound seems a little more natural and full, second my vender has them about 150 less per pair than the Polks. The Dsl amps seem to be at a very fair price too.

    John
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    I hate to say it, but it sounds like I'd be goin' with the DSLs, too. Let us know what you decide and how it turns out!
    Jstas wrote: »
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  • jabcon
    jabcon Posts: 25
    edited March 2006
    The price I am working with from my vender is around 2200 for A3 amp an A5 amp pair of 6.3's pair of 6.2's and an ultimate iriduim 10" sub. haven't picked a head unit yet still reading.

    John
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    I'd definitely go wth Eclipse for the head unit.
    Jstas wrote: »
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2006
    If you dont mind, what are you paying for the DLS equipment? I know someone who might still have some DLS amps for sale, slightly used, but in perfect condition. If youre interested let me know and I'll ask him if he still has em.
    -Cody
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited March 2006
    No plans for SR amps at the moment. Whoever was at CES and got info about SR amps is full of it... there were no amps other than the Momos on display.

    But if you guys want SR amps... any new amps for that matter of any price point... make a ruckus. Sometimes you guys make enough noise to make stuff go on here.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
  • Thom
    Thom Posts: 723
    edited March 2006
    Keep in mind that three way system will be harder to set- up then a two way. Many years ago we had a two way set up in my wife's Civic and the judges always loved it. When we switched to three way the next year (against the advice of the guy who tuned the car for us), it was never quite the same. Some things were improved (midbass), but overall it wasn't quite as strong. And we were running all active. Crossover points make all the difference, so a nice active crossover will help. I've never been terribly impressed with three way sets running off their passive crossover (but mainly beacause the mid bass in the doors plays up to 350 Hz or so). I've never heard the DLS, so I can't speak for those. If you could fit all three speakers in the kicks that'd be cool, but not many guys have done it.


    Or go three way with SR if you're up for the extra work. We won't offer a three way set with passive, but you can purchase a 5250 set and buy 6500 drivers for midbass.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    Thom wrote:
    Or go three way with SR if you're up for the extra work. We won't offer a three way set with passive, but you can purchase a 5250 set and buy 6500 drivers for midbass.
    Oooh. I think Mac has yet another project heading his way!

    Go for it, Mac! :D
    Jstas wrote: »
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited March 2006
    He would just have to purchase the 5.25 drivers.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    Even fewer reasons not to do it! :D

    That seriously would be an interesting install to 'watch' (online) someone do. I wonder if Mac has enough room to really use a 3way system.
    Jstas wrote: »
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Im in agreement with Thom in that I favor 2 way systems. Im a big believer that the fewer drivers the better. Im sure if they were all tuned precisely, it would outperform a 2 way but its not an easy task to get it tuned right.

    As for running the SR's 3 way, I could pull that off next year when I move up to modified. Im planning on putting mids in the kicks so I could leave my 6.5's in the doors.

    Something to consider tho, in MECA's RTA competitions (stick a mic in the drivers seat and play white noise and you have 2 minutes to adjust your controls to get not only the flattest but most symetrical curve) the only guys that ever beat me are the dudes with 30 band EQ's or laptops (no joke, one dude at nationals had a laptop and scored nearly perfect!) and I was hanging with them with only a bass and treble control. This isnt due to my master skills as a tuner but rather the superb performance of the SR's and the fact that they have the best, most neutral and flattest curve out there, even inside a car! I know this is a Polk forum and Im a diehard Polkster but when I say the SR's are the best speakers on the market I believe I can prove it. Ive earned quite a bit of respect in our local competition scene for them and have even had one or two people come up and ask "I heard youve got the new Polks, can I hear them" and they always seem to be impressed, and Im sure as more and more people hear them their reputation will continue to grow.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    It's true that 3-ways are harder to tune, but once you get them going...... very nice :D.
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  • jabcon
    jabcon Posts: 25
    edited March 2006
    Whow! what feed back. the system I am going to try assemble is the tweeter at the pocket next to the side mirrors at the top of the front doors. then the 3.5 dome mid would be at the windsheild speaker location raised and facing back, next the 6.5 would be in the door panel. finaly the 10" would be in a custom made inclusure inside the middle front seat. the back would have a tweeter at the rear pillar with the 6.5 in the rear door panel. thanks for the offer on the used equiptment but I have a pretty decent line on new and I don't like buying used electronics.

    John
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2006
    As far as 3-way systems versus 2-way systems, it is my firm belief, especially in a truck, a 3-way system will always be best. Theres simply too much room with so big spaces between speakers. I agree, it is much harder to get it to sound right, it took me 2 days to get my Iridium 6.3s in my truck to get to where I found the 'right' places.

    I have the SRs in my girlfriends car. Yeah, thats right, I own both the speakers youre asking about, dls in my truck, SRs in my girlfriends car. Anyway, the SRs are in the stock locations in her civic and have excellent staging, not so great imaging.

    I would get the Iridiums, but the SRs are not a slouch at all. They are among the best on the market right now.
    -Cody
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  • 1zach4
    1zach4 Posts: 21
    edited March 2006
    i'll have the sr's in my car soon so i'll let you know how I feel they compare @ that time...i've heard both, but i'm not going to give my full opinion until i've been able to play around and tune my own sr's
  • deepinya
    deepinya Posts: 199
    edited March 2006
    Gave up on selling em huh zach? You may be glad you did!
  • Thom
    Thom Posts: 723
    edited March 2006
    jabcon wrote:
    Whow! what feed back. the system I am going to try assemble is the tweeter at the pocket next to the side mirrors at the top of the front doors. then the 3.5 dome mid would be at the windsheild speaker location raised and facing back, next the 6.5 would be in the door panel.
    John

    With the 3" in the dash I would think the tweeter would be best next to it, like in the a- pillars aiming at each other.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2006
    Thom wrote:
    With the 3" in the dash I would think the tweeter would be best next to it, like in the a- pillars aiming at each other.

    x2!

    The tweeter is very important in stage perception and having them in front of the mids could cause some strange things.

    Sticking the tweets in the A pillars is the best way to go. Thatll not only raise your stage more but also increase the depth. I have mine in the A pillars and firing at the middle of the windshield and that works well for me. It has a few issues with focus but deepens the stage a good bit.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2006
    Did you have to attenuate the tweeters a good amount due to the reflections off of the windshield?
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  • 1zach4
    1zach4 Posts: 21
    edited March 2006
    deepinya wrote:
    Gave up on selling em huh zach? You may be glad you did!

    Yeah I gave up on it, i'll now have sr6500's in the front and mmc650's in the back with an eclipse XA4000 running them all
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited March 2006
    ^^ Hey, I've had worse problems! :p
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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