%^$%@ Candles!!!

nate552
nate552 Posts: 9
edited January 2006 in Speakers
Yesterday my wife and I had some friends over and my wife decided to light some candles. Well, she placed one of those jar candles on top of my new M20's. I noticed it, stopped and thought about it, and decided that since it was ontop of some pieces of tile, and in a jar it should be safe. Wrong. The jar broke as the wick burned to the bottom and wax leaked all over the front of the speaker, all the way to the carpet. I noticed it just as my wife was serving appitizers and screamed" Oh @%^$#!!!" :eek: Fearing the worst I blew out the candle and removed the grill to see red wax had dripped all over the tweeter, woofer, pooled in the port, and gotten on the back of the grille. It had also pooled at the base of the speaker on the carpet. I quickly grabbed a roll of paper towels and tried to wipe off the wax but only smeared it as it was still warm. By this point, the guests were silent and my poor wife had turned a nice shade of white. I carefully laid the speaker on it's back like a stricken patient and within seconds we all had rolls of paper towels and were carefully wiping the wax off. Long story short, I let it dry and used a cuticle tool to remove the wax from the woofer and from around the edge of the tweeter. The cone of the tweeter did not get any wax on it, but the woofer did. I was able to scrap off the wax and you cannot tell that it had wax on it. As for the grille, I was able to use a steamer to clean it. I laid paper towls on it, then applied the steamer and it removed the wax. (Which is how we removed the wax from the carpet also). I am wondering how it will affect my speaker though. Will the sound be compromised because of the wax even though it has been removed? And never again shall a candle burn near my speakers......
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  • lanion
    lanion Posts: 843
    edited January 2006
    I would imagine compromise would only occur if there was actually wax on the woofer, since its mass would add to the woofer and unbalance it. If you got it off I don't think there should be any problem.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited January 2006
    tough to answer, I would just use my ears to see if you hear a difference between the the left and right speaker.

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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited January 2006
    you just reminded me to kindly remove the candle jars that my wife thought would add some "decorative flair" to my new speakers
    i say it's all part of their "master plan" :)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited January 2006
    Damn.... sorry about the tragedy. I hope no speakers were harmed in this candle accident.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited January 2006
    NOTHING I mean NOTHING gets set on top of speakers or gear.

    Not doilies, not candles, not picture frames. Makes me ill when I see things like that. It's not a shelf for effin bric a brac CRAP.
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  • BjornB17
    BjornB17 Posts: 752
    edited January 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    NOTHING I mean NOTHING gets set on top of speakers or gear.

    Not doilies, not candles, not picture frames. Makes me ill when I see things like that. It's not a shelf for effin bric a brac CRAP.

    I am with you on this one, Russ! Whenever my girlfriend comes over, she always talks about how the speakers look out of place because there is nothing on top of them. Why do there always have to be nik nacks on top of everything?

    Poor speakers.... what have they done to deserve this?? :(
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited January 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    NOTHING I mean NOTHING gets set on top of speakers or gear.

    Not doilies, not candles, not picture frames. Makes me ill when I see things like that. It's not a shelf for effin bric a brac CRAP.


    LOL, but that goes against the entire Martha Stewart regime. If they even let us have speakers that are not Blose, then we must "fancy" them up with crap. I saw one poor soul with littel glass figurines on top of his monitors. They would rattle when any bass kicked in. The result was his wife saying to turn it down.

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2006
    I HAD to put stuff on top of my speakers, otherwise my dearly departed cat Tami thought that it was her duty to jump on to one, jump over to my tv, then on to my other speaker so she could sit there & preen! :D

    Mind you, my towers were already about 7" off of the ground on stands! :eek:

    Anything that represented a challenge for her to jump, SHE WOULD TRY IT!

    So I have a pair of phonebooks on one & my George Forman grill on the other!

    My beloved cats are gone now, but since space it tight I have left the stuff where it is!

    RuSsMaN wrote:
    NOTHING I mean NOTHING gets set on top of speakers or gear.

    Not doilies, not candles, not picture frames. Makes me ill when I see things like that. It's not a shelf for effin bric a brac CRAP.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2006
    The arrangement in my prior house had one of the speakers near the entry way. Visiting women love to place their purse, keys, etc on the speaker...well, after showing my **** a few times, my wife made sure she nipped it before it could happen.

    One time an interior designer came over (for the new people buying our house) to take some measurements, as her clipboard was about 6 inches from the top of my speaker, my wife practically dove across the room to grab it---it was funny seeing her "defend" my speakers.

    I'd recommend if you have a speaker that's in a location that makes it a handy "end table" get glass tops cut for them. Cost about $7 a piece at a local glass shop---well worth the investment.
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  • BjornB17
    BjornB17 Posts: 752
    edited January 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    The arrangement in my prior house had one of the speakers near the entry way. Visiting women love to place their purse, keys, etc on the speaker...well, after showing my **** a few times, my wife made sure she nipped it before it could happen.

    One time an interior designer came over (for the new people buying our house) to take some measurements, as her clipboard was about 6 inches from the top of my speaker, my wife practically dove across the room to grab it---it was funny seeing her "defend" my speakers.

    I'd recommend if you have a speaker that's in a location that makes it a handy "end table" get glass tops cut for them. Cost about $7 a piece at a local glass shop---well worth the investment.

    LOL that is pretty funny! Although i mentioned how my girlfriend doesn't like my speakers being so "empty" on top, she still respects my request to not put stuff on top of them. She doesn't even touch them actually, but she really enjoys listening to them!

    On the other hand, the front left speaker (a Monitor 70) is right by the door to the room, and almost everybody uses it to lean on when talking to me. When I ask them not to do it, they look at me like im crazy. When the blinds are open and the sun shines in, you can always see lots of fingerprints and stuff on top of that one speaker and its hard to get off. I really hate it when people place keys and other sharp objects on top. The previous speaker i had there before i got the Polk Monitors was full of scratches on top after 1 year. :mad:

    Im going to put those needles that they use in rain gutters to keep birds out on top of my speakers!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited January 2006
    I'd never put candles on top of my logans..... can you imagine what wax will do to the stator panels?? YIKES!
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  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited January 2006
    Maybe this is one of the unofficial reason why newer topline speakers have their tweeters in a separate enclosure on top of the speakers, making it impossible to use as a shelf. :)
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  • karpiel666
    karpiel666 Posts: 173
    edited January 2006
    I have the ultiamte solution for both sexes. say you have rtx800i as mains, a nice thing to place on them would be.... a nice stylish rt35i. The only thing that I even consider putting things on is my sub, and then its only the dvd case while its playing, but 99% of the time it ends up on the floor :)
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited January 2006
    steveinaz wrote:
    The arrangement in my prior house had one of the speakers near the entry way. Visiting women love to place their purse, keys, etc on the speaker...well, after showing my **** a few times, my wife made sure she nipped it before it could happen.

    One time an interior designer came over (for the new people buying our house) to take some measurements, as her clipboard was about 6 inches from the top of my speaker, my wife practically dove across the room to grab it---it was funny seeing her "defend" my speakers.

    I'd recommend if you have a speaker that's in a location that makes it a handy "end table" get glass tops cut for them. Cost about $7 a piece at a local glass shop---well worth the investment.

    LOL. I am the same way. Lucky for me, my speakers are in corners of the ht room, and my Old Lady never brings her friends in there, unless they watch a movie.
    I had an old pair of cheap Sony towers, and had some jacka$$ sit a beer on the top of it during a party, and when I noticed, it was too late. I had this Big a$$ ring on the top of my speaker, and the party was over shortly after that. :mad:
    Good thing they were Sony and not Polkaudio speakers. :eek:
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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited January 2006
    I have had 3 pictures rattle off my speaker and break on the floor.
    We might have learned after last nights broken frame.

    As for the wax I think you will find that the speaker in question will sound better now that it has a smooth waxed surface that no sound can stick to.

    I had a similar problem with my t.v.
    A candle on top of my t.v. let loose when the dam broke and wax flowed down the front of my set. The wax flowed down the back of the screen protector and into the little groves in the screen.
    It took me hours to scrape all the wax out of the groves with a needle. You can still see where it was if you know where to look.

    Lets all repeat together...

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  • nate552
    nate552 Posts: 9
    edited January 2006
    No more candles....no more candles.....no more candles
    Thanks guys, at least I've gotten a laugh out of reading your replies! I've learned my lesson!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2006
    Luckily, my new house has the speakers way off the beaten path, no worries now.
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  • FicmanS
    FicmanS Posts: 134
    edited January 2006
    Wow that blows, almost as good as my Ex deciding to water the Plants on top of my Onkyo... I got there just in time to see flames shooting out of the top... Even under extended warranty they would not repair...

    I believe the repair guys comments were "Who the hell puts the plants on top of a reciever to water them? You're not sersiously thinking we are going to cover that do you?" Been awhile but I don't think we spoke to each other for a few weeks after that...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,779
    edited January 2006
    My speakers are painted with truck bed liner...

    I can haul wood and lawn mowers on top of mine beatch.

    No worries.

    Sorry to hear about the candles!
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2006
    Candles should be banned from the face of the earth. Nothing but fire hazards We have electricity for lights now. :confused:
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2006
    sorry that happen to you. sounds like they'll be ok... but do they smell like flowers now?? :p
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2006
    NOTHING I mean NOTHING gets set on top of speakers or gear.

    Not doilies, not candles, not picture frames. Makes me ill when I see things like that. It's not a shelf for effin bric a brac CRAP.

    Hell! I am a woman and I love interior design but NOTHING goes on the gear! :eek:

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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited January 2006
    the only thing that goes on top of my rt2000i`s, is a pair of rt55i`s.. :D


    I`m with Russ on this...


    I have a rule...

    You put stuff on my speaks, I pee on your car.... :eek:



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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited January 2006
    beardog03 wrote:
    You put stuff on my speaks, I pee on your car.... :eek:



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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited January 2006
    a former roomate did the same **** with candles and my TV once. stupid sob.
    while i didn't pee on his car i did kick him out.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2006
    Candles should be banned from the face of the earth. Nothing but fire hazards We have electricity for lights now. :confused:

    I think that might be a little extreme there chief :eek:

    That's like saying bicycles should be banned because they're traffic hazards and we have cars for transportation now...
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  • limashaynut
    limashaynut Posts: 152
    edited January 2006
    Been there, done that!

    My wife put a candle on top of my Sony tube tv. Wax dripped all down the front of the TV, and on some of the wood on the front of the rack. It took quite a bit of clean up to get it all off, but in the end no real harm. The worst part was getting all of the wax out of the small holes for the speakers on the TV.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited January 2006
    I had some wax drip onto the veneer of my old yamahas. I got it off, but because the wood veneer has grooves in it, it was very hard to make it look natural again. Who cares though, those speakers sucked and I sold them :)
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2006
    The only thing that has "sat" on my gear, is my own personal "gear"....so be wary of what you buy from me. I have most certainly touched that gear, in an inappropriate manner at some point of it's existance here.
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited January 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    The only thing that has "sat" on my gear, is my own personal "gear"....so be wary of what you buy from me. I have most certainly touched that gear, in an inappropriate manner at some point of it's existance here.
    Pffftt, you tell us this now? Should have known to begin with that whatever you've owned has at least had the shocking sight of a pantless doro in front of them ;)