Guns - Whaddya Got?

Dr. Spec
Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
edited February 28 in Clubhouse Archives
After reading about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Big Brother, loss of freedoms, noise limits, and owning guns - I gotta ask: Who owns guns, what kind, and for what purpose?

I own the following firearms, and all of them are used for hunting, except the two semi-auto handguns, which are used for personal defense.

Centerfire Rifles:

.30-06 bolt action
.223 bolt action

Shotguns:

12 gauge pump
20 gauge pump x 2
12 gauge break action single shot

Rimfire Rifles:

.22LR bolt action
.22LR semi-auto heavily customized

Handguns:

.44 Mag revolver
.22LR semi-auto
9mm semi-auto
.40 semi-auto

If this thread generates any decent response, I can always extrapolate on the details (brand, features, optics, options, etc.) of any of my guns.

Regards,

Spec

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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited April 2002
    Here goes:

    Smith and Wesson 686 .357 magnum
    Smith and Wesson .40 semi-auto
    Ruger 10/22 .22LR stainless with black composite stock and scope


    The S&W .357 is awesome. I've had that thing for about 12 years now. The Ruger is nice and dirt cheap to shoot. The .40 S&W is sloppy. I don't really care for it too much anymore. I use all of these strictly at the range. Then again, if someone comes in to threaten my Polks, then me, Smith and Wesson will take them down!

    Dirty Johnny Callahan :cool:
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  • OrangeToupee
    OrangeToupee Posts: 488
    edited April 2002
    I would never hurt a defenseless animal, but I do own a .45 caliber Glock, because I will hurt some of those terrible human beings if they try to enter my house. Hehehe.....
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2002
    I have a manual pump Daisy BB pistol.

    Does that count?

    I use Louiville Slugger for home protection, that or the chainsaw.....
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited April 2002
    A big pink pistol.


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  • OrangeToupee
    OrangeToupee Posts: 488
    edited April 2002
    Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2002
    Damn straight.

    If some **** breaks in and you say FREEZE with a gun, he will stop, or try to draw himself....

    If some **** breaks in and they see my two-hundred-fifty pounds runnin at em in boxer shorts revin' my saw, they scream like a **** and run.....

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • OrangeToupee
    OrangeToupee Posts: 488
    edited April 2002
    "If some **** breaks in and they see my two-hundred-fifty pounds runnin at em in boxer shorts revin' my saw, they scream like a **** and run....."

    Imagery of that is hilarious. Hey, if you killed that ****, would you consider wearing his face for a mask? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

    By the way, are all two-hundred-fifty of those pounds in your boxer shorts?

    Revin' my saw ... hilarious!
  • lax01
    lax01 Posts: 496
    edited April 2002
    I am not messing with any of you guys! You are a serious bunch! :D

    I want a paintball gun, does that count?
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited April 2002
    Micahs probably got a tube-sock bazooka.


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  • -justin-
    -justin- Posts: 891
    edited April 2002
    If some **** breaks in and they see my two-hundred-fifty pounds runnin at em in boxer shorts revin' my saw, they scream like a **** and run.....

    Good god that's funny :lol: !

    I've just got a bat. I think my idiot roommates would shoot themselves if I had a gun in my house.... hmmm... on second thought....

    ~JB
  • johnnyamerika
    johnnyamerika Posts: 382
    edited April 2002
    quote:

    If some **** breaks in and they see my two-hundred-fifty pounds runnin at em in boxer shorts revin' my saw, they scream like a **** and run.....



    Have you seen American Psycho, that scene is classic :lol:

    I don't own any guns, don't plan on it. :)

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited April 2002
    Holy Crap, I'm DYING over here......

    Russ, that's the funniest thing I've read in months.

    It's even funnier if you have see Russ.

    Man, I blew snot-rockets all over the screen...

    BDT
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  • pensacola
    pensacola Posts: 269
    edited April 2002
    I don't own a gun, but am a member of the NRA (simply to help fight the anti-gun coalition). They agree with me.

    Give War A Chance
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2002
    I think everyone should be required to own and carry a weapon. I follow the Archie Bunker train of thought on this one. "Can you imagine walking into a 7-11 to rob it if you knew everyone in there was packing?"

    22 Ruger pistol
    12 guage pump shotgun
    22 Ruger rifle

    More later...
    AR-15?
    Ruger 44 redhawk?
    SW 38 snubnose?
    9mm large clip small profile something or other?
    madmax
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  • pensacola
    pensacola Posts: 269
    edited April 2002
    All In The Family was the best sitcom... ever.

    When I was growing up, we didn't eat until Dad came home or All In The Family ended, whichever came last.;)

    "Guys like us, we had it made...
    Those were the days." No one sang like Archie and Edith, either!

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  • johnnyamerika
    johnnyamerika Posts: 382
    edited April 2002
    All in the Family is definatley one of the top sitcoms ever...I'd put Seinfeld up there too.
  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited April 2002
    That is some f-ing funny stuff man! :lol:

    Can you imagine that. Person breaks in and gets attacked by owner with a chainsaw. I'm dying!!!! Too too hilarious!!!

    John
    No excuses!
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2002
    I grew up around lots of guns. I lived next to a rifle and pistol range and was a jr. marksman. I had an uncle that I spent a lot of time with that was a lifer in the Air Force and all he did for 20 years was shoot 30-06 at 1000 yds in shooting competitions as a member of their shooting team. I do not own any guns now and will not as long have kids living in my house. (dogs work better than guns as a deterent anyway).

    The reason...when I was a kid I had two bad incidents with guns...and I knew all of the rules and was careful and bad things still happened.

    The first one was when I was 12 (8th grade summer) no one was at home. I got out my dad's S&W and was going to clean it. I was really into guns and I did this a lot. We NEVER kept the guns loaded. Without thinking I pulled the gun out of the case, leveled it, pulled the trigger and blew the hell out of my mom's dresser. I seems the lady next door thought she heard something and thinking it might be an intruder she called my dad. He loaded the gun and went down there. Nothing, but it was late so he just put the gun in the case and and back in the closet without unloading it. Was I in deep trouble. I would have never pointed it at anyone but it was still scary.

    A little over a year later I was laying out of spring football practice (We were working out with weights in the "Hole"). My best friend next door called me up to his house to show me the new snub-nose 38 special revolver his dad had just bought. He pulled it out and was waiving it around and I could see the tips of the bullets in the cylinder. With the other incident fresh in my mind I told him to put the gun up and turned to walk out of the room. The next thing know is that something has happened....I turned around a there was my friend holding the holstered, smoking pistol. I felt my side and pulled back a bloody hand. I said something like "My God, you shot me!" , walked out of his house to mine told my mother to take me to the hospital (she couldn't -someone else had to drive). I should be dead or at least paralysed. The bullet hole in my back from the 38 is directly on top of my spine. The doctor said because of the angle of entry a it missed the spine by the smallest possible fraction. It went through my liver and exploded the kidney. The blood from my side was the exit wound. I came within minutes of bleeding to death and my heart stoped beating in ICU. Another miracle was that the owner of the gun had just the day before taken out the hollow points and put solid jacketed rounds it the gun. The hollow points would have shattered my spine and if that didn't kill me the mess inside would have.

    I'm not at all anti gun. I just won't have one in my house as long as I have kids. I KNEW all of the rules and safety precautions. I knew guns could go off accidentially and tried to avoid danger. In spite of all of that I still got hurt. Every time I read about a kid who accidentially shot their brother or sister I die a little inside because I've been there and done that and lived to tell the tale!

    You guys that have guns please keep them where your kids can not possibly get to them. I know that the theory is that if a gun is locked up it won't do you any good if you need it. Well take it from me...you are better off with dogs (not killer dogs - just dogs that like to bark), a baseball bat, or a chainsaw (The imagry here is still too much).....anything but a loaded gun.

    Sorry to be long and preachy but this is a topic that hits too close to home. I'll get off my soap box now.

    By the way I don't have any guns but I do have 2 slugs to remind me of how lucky I am. One I got out of my mother's underwear drawer and the other was dug out of the wall in my neighbors house and given to me.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited April 2002
    I 've got a Kremlin M21, It'll spray the hell out of anything I put in it. A little refinishing humor.
    No comment on anything else.
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  • briancs
    briancs Posts: 193
    edited April 2002
    OK I have seen some mishaps also. I just can't give it up though.
    1. Savage 110 30-06 22" bbl
    2&3. 2 Mossberg 500's 1/18.5" 1/28"
    4. Winchester 1300 26"
    5. Jukar .45 single shot blackpowder handgun
    6. Marlin/Glenfield Model 60 .22LR (first gun straight from dad)
    7. Norinco Mak-90 (post Brady) AK47 variant with two thirties and one five rounder
    Just sold a EAA .45 Colt bounty hunter (single action)
    Never should have sold 1961 Browning Broadway Trap lightning Grade 1 raised monte carlo stock (really big "cheek peice" only one I've seen like it goes for the dealer to) 32" bbls I think. One full the other modified.
    I was to young for that gun did not realise its true personal value
    Soon to buy
    Ruger p-95
    S/W .357 mag (just like my grandfather had)
    new bbl, scope, stock, and trigger for the -06. In order Hart, lueopold, McMillen, and Timney (I think)
    Lessons have been learned. All are in my case. I have one key. Dad has the other 10 miles away.
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  • OrangeToupee
    OrangeToupee Posts: 488
    edited April 2002
    Interesting post, Shack, and glad to hear that you are one lucky ****
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited May 2002
    I've got:
    12 quage Mossberg 500. The Persuader. 8 shot that even came with interchangable pistol grip.
    .22cal LR that collapses into the stock.
    .54cal Black Powder w/scope
    20 quage single shot bolt action
    30-06 Bolt action British Enfield. Same model Sgt York used.

    I used to have a Taurus .357Mag that I traded for the 30-06. Michigan recently passed a new concealed weapons law. I'm thinking about picking-up a little .380 auto.

    Shack: Wow! I'm glad you were able to post that. Right now my guns are all stashed in the basement in their cases, but with an 18 month old daughter that gets smarter and nosier every day, it's time to start looking for a safe.

    BTW: A few years ago I passed on a Desert Eagle .357Mag/Auto. I later found-out he sold it for less than $300. DOH!
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  • johnnyamerika
    johnnyamerika Posts: 382
    edited May 2002
    Shack, that kind of story is exactly why I don't own one. I've heard so many stories like that...how many stories do you hear though about a guy who protected his family from an intruder with his gun (without getting shot himself). I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I'm sure there are more accidents then actual rescues with guns.

    I think 'the right to bear arms' thing was written in a time where the land was wild, people basically just finished a revolution, and protection of property was probably key. Guns back then also, where not of the destructive power they are now, I'm sure kids were taught how to handle them from an early age, and there certainly wasn't any mystisism surrouding them. A gun was for defending your home, not showing your friends. People hunted alot because that's how they survived!

    I'm not saying the right has no bearing now, but I think people should sit and think about how easy it is to get their guns, and who else may have them.
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited May 2002
    You guys that have guns please keep them where your kids can not possibly get to them.
    Locked in a HUGE-**** gun safe with the ammo hidden elsewhere.

    Unfortunatly, like you experienced Shack. It's not the gun, it's the ****-sticks that have no common sense when handleing, locking, up such a destructive weapon.

    You are lucky, but from your first story, you never assume anything with a gun, as you so found out.

    Some of my guns have not been fired in years. Yet I clean them twice a year. Everytime I pull one out, I check the chamber for a round, knowing all to well it is empty, but I check anyway.

    Stupid people piss me off.


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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited May 2002
    Hi again:

    I've got a 5 year old and a 12 year old in the house. All of my guns are locked in a fireproof UL Listed Residential Gun Safe - not a flimsy sheet metal "gun cabinet" - a real deal bank vault style 1,000 pound monster. Everytime I see the 5 year old playing in the family room where the gun safe is located, I have such peace of mind knowing she cannot get to them, or burglars for that matter.

    I do believe that with any right comes responsibility, and gun owners must be the most responsible of us all. I do also believe the 2nd Amendment is still valid and legitimate today - the right to possess firearms is one of the most visible signs of a free society. In every society viewed as oppressive, totalitarian, Draconian, communist, etc., the right to own firearms is severely restricted or banned outright. Disarmed citizens are not free men, they are subjects.

    On the other hand, I am not an absolutist, and the 2nd Amendment, like all others, should be subject to reasonable restrictions. Defining "reasonable" is the crux of the evergreen debate over gun rights. There is the extreme left who wants all guns severely restricted with an eye towards an outright ban, and there is the extreme right, who wants unfettered access to all types of arms. Reaching an acceptable middle ground is REALLY tough. I will say, without the NRA and its 4.5 million members (which is not as extreme as the media would like you to beleive), we would have long ago gone the way of Great Britain, Australia, Japan, China, Russia, etc. where private ownership of firearms is essentially banned.

    With that said, I will readily admit we have a severe gun violence problem in this country, and it is not caused by responsible gun owners and NRA members. Statistically, the overwhelming percentage of gun violence committed in this country is perpetrated by inner city youths, gang bangers, drug pushers, etc. with illegal guns. These poor kids have no future and no where to turn except to drugs and violence. Illegal guns and gun violence is part and parcel to their world. They ignore every gun law that is passed, and I just keep jumping through smaller and smaller hoops just to keep mine - it's an unworkable solution.

    Like Ron-P, some of my firearms are not shot very often, but others are used nearly every week. They are all empty, cleaned, and well maintained. I use my high power rifle exclusively for big game hunts out west and it gets used maybe once every two years. My shotguns and rimfire rifles get used nearly weekly during hunting season and I shoot skeet weekly for most of the summer.

    As far as examples of self defense, a trip through the annals of The Armed Citizen (NRA) will prove that there are literally thousands of legitimate uses of firearms in self defense situations - and those are just the ones that make the newspapers. In fact our own Justice Department estimates it is as high as 2 million times per year. The catch is that 13/14 times, a shot is never fired - the mere presence of the armed citizen is often enough to diffuse the situation, and these cases are often never reported to the police, and certainly rarely printed by the media. Legal use of firearms in self defense is contrary to the message the media wants to send to the American public - guns are evil and no good has ever come of them and never will.

    Personally, I have used a firearm twice to terminate a home robbery in progress. In both cases, I never had to pull the trigger. Looking down the business end of a 12 gauge shotgun causes most robbers to crap their pants and skeedaddle. I don't keep a shotgun in the bedroom anymore because of the kids, and that's a risk/benefit ratio I can live with - my current neighborhood is not the crime ridden hole I used to live in 20 years ago. I do keep a 12" fixed blade Cold Steel Outdoorsman knife handy in the bedroom, and I can get to the gun safe quickly if I really need to.

    Great thread.....thanks guys.

    Spec
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited May 2002
    I'm with Russ, does my pump-action Crossman air rifle count? I always thought the Desert Eagle pistols look cool. The .50 qualifies as a hand-held cannon.

    Aaron
  • lax01
    lax01 Posts: 496
    edited May 2002
    Wow shack, that is an incredible and very freightening story you told. You are very lucky! I have only ever fired a real .22 at a summer camp I went to. That and paintball are my only experiences with guns.
  • bkleinke
    bkleinke Posts: 51
    edited May 2002
    The closet thing I own to a gun and likely ever will is a large super-soaker... it only shoots water :)

    Last time I fired a BB-Gun I was about 6yrs old. Something tells me I'll never own a gun unless it is a Handgun for defense... but I doubt I'll even have one then.

    People should have the right to own guns, but with that right comes responsibility. That is one thing too many (1 is too many IMO) people with guns lack.

    My .02

    Brian
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited May 2002
    "But your honor, I would've never thought that my 6yr old would look in my nightstand." That's not a real quote, yet I hear it all the time.

    I won't join the NRA. I agree with "The Right to Bear Arms", but I'm also for control. Regulate it, control it, tax it and fund it. A cop can look-up my driving record in a moments notice, but if a pull out a laminated weapons permit, they have nothing to go by. They can ask for a driver's liscense, but if I'm walking (or running) they have no recourse. You need a mariage license eventhough divorce is almost 50%. Something's not right!

    BTW: With Michigan's recent CCW permit acceptance, crime has NOT rissen. In-home accidents has NOT rissen. And I feel safer.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited May 2002
    people with guns lack.
    Lack? Lack what, responsibility?


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