Why no professional reviews for RTi's?
I've looked everywhere and can't find any. There was one review for the previous generation RTi's at Home Theater & Sound, and a couple for the RT__i's. No reviews for their current lineup, though. Anyone know why?
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Stereophile did a review of the rti-4's...The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
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I bet you can find alot of reviews in here . Try a search.
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The Sterophile review was pretty positive. Almost a rave. The reviewer even purchased the review samples, which to me, says a lot. Polk really should submit whole systems to reviewers. I bet they'd sell a lot more speakers.
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Different market? Generally, the folks shopping for audio gear at Best Buy ain't reading Stereophile.
Also, it may be that professional reviews are more appropriate for the Lsi line. Keep in mind that many of these reviews come with a steep price tag for the manufacturer.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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Honestly, and this is just my OPINION but... I think the RTi line sounds better than the LSi's. Polk's own website seems to confirm this as the RTi's seem to get higher average reviews than the LSi's. Perhaps I havent heard the LSi's enough and perhaps the demo setups I have heard didnt give enough power to them or whatever... I could be wrong. And I do like the ring tweeter and this has gotten many good reviews. Maybe most reviewers just go straight for the 'flagship' models, maybe Polk makes more money by not having professional reviews that say "RTi's are a better buy..." or something. I was wondering the same thing too when doing research before buying the RTi's. I definitely trust anything from the 'secrets' reviewers more than the average joe shmoe review so it would be nice to have more reviewers doing articles like these.-Stopher
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"I did notice, however, a slight prominence in the lower highs with all recordings. This was not a brightness per se, but added a touch of emphasis to sibilants on female vocals"
And there in lies the problem for me with the RTi line. Good HT speakers, not good music speakers.Political Correctness'.........defined
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This "Eric LoBue" seems to be a pretty competent a/v reviewer. Why isn't he working for a major publication, whether it's magazine or online? His reviews are wordy, but to the point, and he does provide some nice pictures. His review of the RTi's made me look forward to getting my mine even more. Only one more month
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StopherJJ1980 wrote:Honestly, and this is just my OPINION but... Perhaps I havent heard the LSi's enough and perhaps the demo setups I have heard didnt give enough power to them or whatever...StopherJJ1980 wrote:Polk's own website seems to confirm this as the RTi's seem to get higher average reviews than the LSi's.
The purchaser of the RTi is more than likely moving up from an entry level speaker or a HTIB system. In comparison the RTi sounds great. Chances are they have never really heard a better speaker because they are not into "audio".
On the other hand, the purchaser of the LSi is probably a more seasoned buyer of audio gear and rates their speakers with a more discriminating ear. They may be comparing them to speakers of equal or greater quality. They may also be more demanding of their speakers and rate accordingly.
I know these are very broad generalizations, but I would be willing to bet they are pretty accurate."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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StopherJJ1980 wrote:Honestly, and this is just my OPINION but... I think the RTi line sounds better than the LSi's. .
not so out of the ordinary. these 2 speaker lines sound so different. Its not like the LSi has the same sound charactheristics as the RTi just a little better. They just have 2 very different distinct sounds. hence, there has to be at least some out there who might like one over the other.
from what little I heard of the LSi, I could easily see how they are a fantastic music speaker, but too laid back for some people's taste for home theater.
In terms of professional reviews. I look at them for fun, but I put more stock in the everyday user's opinion over the professionals any day.Living Room 2 Channel -
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The LSI's an RTi's do sound completely different. I prefer the warm, laid back sound. I can't stand bright sound. That's what might woo the listeners in Circuit City and Tweeter showrooms but it's not what gives me everyday satisfaction with musical playback. For movies it doesn't really matter as long as i'm not listening to horn tweeters.
So you're probably wondering why the hell i have what i have? Prob. b/c I'm not willing to spend $800 on a pair of LSi monitors- regardless of the jump in sound quality (which is definitely there btw). If I had room for a dedicated 2ch. setup I defintely would- but I don't.
In fact the only way I can stand my RTi's for musical playback at all is b/c of the gear that I have them hooked up too. Combined with an old Sony ES receiver and older style Adcoms I used to own my speaker setup sounded freaking horrible. Now it's acceptable, if not pleasant/neutral- sometimes laidback/warm and that I can handle, especially at the pricepoint.
As much as LSi's depend on good power/current to get them to perform at their best, imo it matters just as much the kind of receivers/amplifiers & their tonal characteristics that you use for a cheaper speaker like the RTi. -
BIZILL wrote:fear of down-selling their own line of lsi's.
Ummm no. The rti series speakers cannot, will not can't be compared to the Lsi series. The Lsi series is superior in every way.
A better sounding musical speakers IS a better sound home theater. Detail is detail.
the Rti's are what they are. There nice speakers. the Lsi's are fantastic speakers.
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