How much power? LSi 9

wingnut4772

Thanks and tell me about it. All my friends think I am nuts with this stuff " You spent what on a subwoofer?!"

I have been sitting on the fence for a couple of months on the Cinenova but when Outlaw stopped production of their 300 watt amp and all the good word of mouth on the Earthquake...I just had to. I would be really amazed if there is a big difference. Maybe even have a religious experience because my set up sounds pretty decent now. Tdeluce seemed to like his Cinenova over the Outlaw so we will see...You really think I will notice a lot?

wingnut4772

Yeah.....sure

LOL!

No really....I swear...[SIZE=-6]I really mean it this time.....[/size]

heiney9

wingnut4772 wrote:

Tdeluce seemed to like his Cinenova over the Outlaw so we will see...You really think I will notice a lot?

Well there must have been a reason to get rid of your Outlaw . If you've had the Outlaw for awhile and are really accustomed to its performance I think you'll hear a difference with the Cinenova. It won't be a religious experience, probably more subtle. It won't be like replacing your sub was. You may notice an improvement over time as you use it.

I swap components around at home once in awhile and I hear a distinct difference in cdp, dvdp, dacs, and receiver vs. seperates. But I'm very critical in my listening habits and I've had my gear for a long time and can notice a changes between components with my favorite musical passages. Some are night and day others are subtle and some are in between the two.

Good luck

H9

wingnut4772

Well there must have been a reason to get rid of your Outlaw

Yes. I am looking to really get those LSIs going . When I play them loudly I can feel a bit of strain from the Outlaw (and hear). I would like more headroom and from what I have read the Cinenova really opens up power hungry speakers like the LSIs( back to thread topic )I just can't wait!

McLoki

Just wait till you decide you need a set of carver silver 9t's (tube sounding, Solid State monoblocks - 575 wpc into 8 ohms. 900 wpc into 4. ) for the front stage and end up moving your Cineova to handle the rear channels....

So, if you sell your outlaw, what are you going to use to run the rest of your channels?

Michael

audiobliss

McLoki wrote:

Just wait till you decide you need a set of carver silver 9t's (tube sounding, Solid State monoblocks - 575 wpc into 8 ohms. 900 wpc into 4. ) for the front stage and end up moving your Cineova to handle the rear channels....

Now that sounds like it'd be a nice setup!

wingnut4772

So, if you sell your outlaw, what are you going to use to run the rest of your channels?

I have 2 Outlaw m2200s for the back two.

SKsolutions

Try re-reading the post.

Save the 2+2 mathematics for the novices that need simple linear equations, as they have little to do with the dynamics.
Good luck with the Sally Struthers school,

I'm eagerly awaiting your insights to: Relativistic Quantum Field Theory and Statistical Thermodynamics of Complex Liquids

Oh, and a Watt is: a unit of heat expended over time, which has little to do with power, i.e. current, but thanks

Ricardo

SKsolutions wrote:

Try re-reading the post.

Save the 2+2 mathematics for the novices that need simple linear equations, as they have little to do with the dynamics.
Good luck with the Sally Struthers school,

I'm eagerly awaiting your insights to: Relativistic Quantum Field Theory and Statistical Thermodynamics of Complex Liquids

Oh, and a Watt is: a unit of heat expended over time, which has little to do with power, i.e. current, but thanks

Errr..excuse me....but some people are really slow here....Could you repeat the question please???

SKsolutions

I agree with Zero, Joey, et al. You can drive the 9's well with a HK 635 or better. I put together a rig including plasma in less than two months, and the TV was purchase one, and the LSi9 was purchase two. I've evolved it from there and made some compromises since I've gone over my budget. I expected the possibility of relegating the AVR to a pre/pro after a week or two and finding a used 5ch on the 'bay, but am still enjoying being stunned at the dynamics of the combination of the AVR/LSi9's. Someone asked earlier if the HK 635 would deliver the 75 watts into 8 as 150 into 4. I no longer have the gear to measure such, but I can tell you it sure sounds like it's hooked up to a 150+ watt AMP, and not a "receiver". The HK is also rated conservatively at 50Amp of instant current and able to deliver it into a low impedance load. You can see why it was the only receiver I'd purchase, since I'd chosen the speaker I'd wanted first. If it didn't perform as it did, I'd have bought a separate amp straight away and spent the money right then.
Will the LSi9's sound better with a higher end amp. I'd say some will sound better, and some will sound worse. It's not the money you spend, but the design of the amp. Your odds just get better as you spend more. Better/More output transisters/Larger Caps/Toroid Trans/ works better with this speaker.
I have a fairly good ear, and I am not easily impressed by comsumer products, but this combo is quite dynamic. I've not heard a better combo for the money that is. Nearest would be a pair of Tannoy nearfields in a studio.

SKsolutions

HTrookie,

I was stating that simple numbers don't define the equation of an audio signal. There are some that believe in spec's because they don't know any different. I believe that spec's are as trustworthy as the source, and tell little of the whole story. Marketers market to what sells, and most people think "Watt" means how bright a bulb is, i.e. power, so marketers use that to market their AVR's or speakers etc. Technically a watt is a measure of heat, more like a calorie than a derivitive of current.
If you are a rookie, be skeptical. Claims are hard to disprove. Trust your ears and the opinions of those you respect. Do some searches on different gear, and go a lift up a well made Reciever or Amp and feel the difference. There is a reason a lot of people here have a lot of the same gear. Sorry if I was ranting, all watts are NOT created equal. Jusy ask the Tube guys.

m-rorem

I run my LSI system (9's, C, F/X, 7's) all off of an Integra Research RDA-7 (300x7 @ 4ohms) after multiple movie soundtracks at -15db from reference levels the IR never even get's more than slightly warm to the touch. Of course it is a very well designed amp connected to a dedicated a/c line on an open rack.

I agree more power is a good thing, but QUALITY is definitely most important factor when picking an amplifier to mate with the LSI series. Amp MUST not only be stable at 4 ohms but must be able to maintain it's output into loads much lower than that. In order for this to happen, the amps is going to have to have a VERY robust power supply, size DOES matter.

mrorem

chase17

I just picked up a B&K Reference 200.7 amp (375x7 @ 4ohms). Now i need a speaker upgrade.. Thinking about LSI's. I just want a substantial upgrade.

Pioneer Elite VSX56txi
Sony DVP-S9000ES
Sony SCD-C555ES
SA-3250HD Cable
B&K Ref200.2 amp (sold today)
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PSB Stratus Silveri main's (gloss black)
PSB Stratus C6i Center (gloss black)
PSB Image 10S sides
JBL HL10 rears
SVS PB2+ sub

polkatese

Nice, very nice! LSis would definitely be a logical next step, as far as upgrade is concern.

bankshot

Quick ? I have a Denon reciever. It is rated at 110w into 8ohms, no description of the 4ohms rating (prob not a good thing).

If I run an LSiC and 2 LSi9s (for the surrounds) on it and I set the Dynamic Range compression to max, will I have to worry about damaging the speakers or the reciever.

cfrizz

YES! Denon's are NOT designed to run 4ohm speakers by themselves.

aiden

I have a RTi setup that I think sounds pretty good, more for Movies than music. When I hear the music I feel it's a little bright. I have heard so much about the LSi speakers. I would love to hear them, but I don't know where to go? Does any one know where I mite go in Ohio to hear them? I live in the Akron/Canton area. It's hard to find anything above the Monitor speakers. HH greg, CC or BB is all I can find. Thank you for your help!

Denon 2900 universal
Yamaha 2400 Reciever
Monster 3500 Power
Anthem MCA 20
Anthem MCA 30
fronts:Rti 10's (biamped)
Center: CSi5 (biwired)
Surounds: RTi6's (Yamaha)
Backs: RTi6's (Yamaha)
Sub: HSU VTF MK2

SKsolutions

Limiting the dynamic range does nothing to change the native impedance of the speaker, just the amplitude of the signal, so NO, sorry. Denon as a pre/pro only.

SKsolutions

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