Psw1000?

JcM
JcM Posts: 37
edited November 2005 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
Is the PSW1000 finally available? Does anyone know how it compares to say an HSU VTF-3 or a SVS PB12-Plus?

I'm just curious if anyone has seen one or read a review of one.
My HT/Music System:
LSi 15s, LSi 9s, LSiC, HSU VTF-3 MK2, H/K AVR 635, Pioneer 588,Monster MPA5150 250wpc @4ohms, Monster HTS5100 SS, Monster cable throughout
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  • Eric W
    Eric W Posts: 556
    edited November 2005
    Yes, it is available now.
    -Eric
    -Polk Audio
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  • Laura Palmer
    Laura Palmer Posts: 124
    edited November 2005
    Wow that's a pretty nice system!
    Looks like you need a PSW1000 to finish it off.
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  • JcM
    JcM Posts: 37
    edited November 2005
    Thanks Laura.

    I think I'm going to go with the PSW1000.
    My HT/Music System:
    LSi 15s, LSi 9s, LSiC, HSU VTF-3 MK2, H/K AVR 635, Pioneer 588,Monster MPA5150 250wpc @4ohms, Monster HTS5100 SS, Monster cable throughout
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited November 2005
    I got my PSW1000 about a week ago. I'm not sure if break-in is going to help much but so far I can barely hear anything below 30hz. However above that it is REALLY LOUD. Unless the frequency response greatly improves soon I think I will sell it and my PSW650 and get the SVS PC-Ultra.

    Just my $.02
    HT
    Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600

    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2005
    cmy330go wrote:
    I got my PSW1000 about a week ago. I'm not sure if break-in is going to help much but so far I can barely hear anything below 30hz. However above that it is REALLY LOUD. Unless the frequency response greatly improves soon I think I will sell it and my PSW650 and get the SVS PC-Ultra.

    Just my $.02


    thats a shame, but I've heard this before. I heard it is an absolute monster down to 30 hx, but it dies off something fierce below it.

    keep in mind though, I think many people would prefer it because it will fill a room well and is not nearly as big as the SVS. maybe this is what Polk was going for. people who care about the size, and not much about sub 30 hz bass. I hate to think they just couldnt build a sub that will dig that deep.
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • JcM
    JcM Posts: 37
    edited November 2005
    Thanks for the feedback. You say it drops off steeply after 30hz, I assume you mean in SPL right? What would I be missing if I stuck with the PSW1000 over the SVS PC-Ultra?

    I already have 8" drivers in the lsi 15s that can produce some decent bass. The 15s are driving everything above 40hz, so what would I gain if I had the psw1000?
    My HT/Music System:
    LSi 15s, LSi 9s, LSiC, HSU VTF-3 MK2, H/K AVR 635, Pioneer 588,Monster MPA5150 250wpc @4ohms, Monster HTS5100 SS, Monster cable throughout
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,645
    edited November 2005
    The PC Ultra will light a fire under the PSW1000... period and end.

    You'll feel and hear a whole other world... the only real reason to buy an expensive sub for HT is to reach below 20hz or at it - so why buy something that drops off at 30hz...

    The PC Ultra is a monster with a 580 dollar driver and a 500 watt amp pushing it along...

    The PSW1000 just cant compare Im afraid - atleast not below 30hz.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • JcM
    JcM Posts: 37
    edited November 2005
    Here is something else to consider though.

    I work at big box retailer in Canada, and I can take advantage of the Polk EPP. I'm not going to say what kind of discount I get, but I wouldn't be paying full price for the sub; however, I would still need to pay full price for the PC-Ultra.
    My HT/Music System:
    LSi 15s, LSi 9s, LSiC, HSU VTF-3 MK2, H/K AVR 635, Pioneer 588,Monster MPA5150 250wpc @4ohms, Monster HTS5100 SS, Monster cable throughout
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,645
    edited November 2005
    Then get the PCi or PC+

    Especially if your primary goal is movies... the PSW1000 might be better for music

    Every single SVS sub hits lower than the PSW1000...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited November 2005
    Don't misunderstand. I'm not saying the PSW1000 is a bad sub. All major manufacturers have to compromise somewhere. They know most people would never consider putting an SVS size sub in their rooms. Even the majority of those who would, probably have wives that would say no. ;) With the size restraints polk is working with, they couldn't make it hit extremely low and still be really loud. In this case I think they made a good call. Most people would not notice missing sound below 30hz. But they will certainly notice the extreme volume above 30. I really think Polk built an awesome sub here for the average consumer. Now if all us audio snobs could just learn to live with shacking our walls rather than cracking them this sub would be perfect. :D
    HT
    Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600

    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited November 2005
    Spec's are spec's. But the new Psw1000 not being able to dig down pass 30hz in my opnion is unexceptable. It should beable to dig into the 20's and play well. Most subwoofers can do this.

    now another way to look at it is sound quality over quanity. If the sub plays extremely tight and quick, doesn't sound forced. Plays extremely natural, It's worth having. Some people like bookshelf design speakers for this reason. Some feel they sound better then towers which alot have sloppy bass when they try to dig low. Most subwoofers I have heard are sloppy at all Freq's.

    I'm not trying to bash SVS but I heard 2 differnt ones and was not Impressed at all. They both played very loud but I knew exactly where the sub was. It also in my opnion is not a musical sub at all. Both the square one and the cylinder one.

    To buy a sub one must hear it first and make up his or her own mind if this is the correct sub. Many love the SVS and myself think they suck.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2005
    buy a Pc-Ultra and you won`t say that..
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,645
    edited November 2005
    I have never had that problem...

    All sorts of people have heard my system and never mentioned it either...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • marcpam
    marcpam Posts: 228
    edited November 2005
    SVS are extremely musical and perfect for movies. I have heard alot of subs and nothing even comes close, IMO
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited November 2005
    mantis wrote:
    Spec's are spec's. But the new Psw1000 not being able to dig down pass 30hz in my opnion is unexceptable. It should beable to dig into the 20's and play well. Most subwoofers can do this.

    Dan

    Polk has gone below 30hz before with the RT3000 subs. Why can't they do it again? I would much rather go with the size of the PSW1000 over the size of the SVS but the rest of my system is already hitting below what the PSW1000 offers.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited November 2005
    SVS isn't the only sub on the market. Want a killer sub that digs deep and is very musical?? Look into Martin Logan subs.The depth is killer.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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