Polk Paul is getting a bad rep over at 'The SPot'

Ron-P

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=85;t=000055

I also sent a email to Justin several weeks ago, he never responded. What gives guys?


Peace Out~:D

mjk91383

yeah, as of lately, it seems as if we only hear from paul if he's pushing a product or from justin if he's added some little feature to the site.

i'm with ron on this one, what gives?

joe

Ron-P

Glad to see the post over there Paul.

I actually emailed Justin (aka: car wash boy) about a web site update. I tend to believe he might be wrapped up in Micah's socks. Thus, no response.


Peace out~:D

DarqueKnight

At first I was using one CRS+ speaker as my center channel. The speaker was modified to bypass the dimensional crossover section. Two stereo drivers were wired in parallel on the stereo portion of the crossover.

I decided I liked the sound of two CRS+'s better and the one speaker setup was de-modified back to its original configuration. I run mine with the SDA cable attached, even though the center channel signal is mono. I have experienced no cancellation effects.
The speakers are raised at the rear 4 degrees to improve the anchoring effect to the television.

-justin-

Originally posted by Ron-P
Glad to see the post over there Paul.

I actually emailed Justin (aka: car wash boy) about a web site update. I tend to believe he might be wrapped up in Micah's socks. Thus, no response.


Peace out~:D

I didn't get no stinkin' email! I even searched my "old mail" archive!

Hey that's MR. Car wash boy to you!

~JB

Steve@3dai

Hey Justin, why don't you wash my car too

It needs a good Zaino'ing as well dammit.

Claybar too.

Get on it!

And I want every spoke of my 18" P1s licked clean.



- Steve

Larry Chanin

Originally posted by "Polk" Paul DiComo
...Yes, two center channel speakers CAN cause cancellations and other phenomena that serve to alter the timbre of the center sound AND spoil the "the sound is coming from the TV screen" effect. But I have found that if they are far enough apart it isn’t a big deal and may be worth it to get the greater output of two centers. That being said, you are better off with one really good center that is positioned very near the TV than two crummy ones.

As for subs, two are better than one. Whether you have one sub or two you always have to do a lot of placement experimentation to get the flattest response and most even distribution of bass.

Hi Paul:

I've heard that it's better to stack subwoofers than to place them side-by-side. If this is true, could you explain the operating principle behind this tweak? Would this apply to stacking center channel speakers? ...assuming of course you didn't crush your TV?

Thanks.

Larry

-justin-

Originally posted by Steve@3dai
Hey Justin, why don't you wash my car too

It needs a good Zaino'ing as well dammit.

Claybar too.

Get on it!

And I want every spoke of my 18" P1s licked clean.



- Steve

No way dude, I wash my car enough as it is! In fact, I should wash it today (I need some claybar action too)

Oh yeah, I'm not going to get those seats... too much money! Besides, I love my seats now, I don't know what I was thinkin'.

And I just got some new 17's, but no tires to put on them. Know any cheap places to get some?

~Justin

madmax

Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3243

Steve@3dai

Originally posted by -Justin-


And I just got some new 17's, but no tires to put on them. Know any cheap places to get some?

~Justin

Kumho ECSTA Supra 712

www.tirerack.com

Like 90 a tire. Excellent price performance, many people in TX run them for street and autox.

- Steve

shack

Justin - I agree on the Kumhos. I have them on my Mustang. I've run Goodyears, Michelins, Comp T/As, Continentials and Pirellis and the Kumhos are the best bang for the buck I've found. Tire Rack is a good place to buy since I can get my tires that would cost about $200 locally for around $100.

madmax

Some of our posts get missed and missed and missed. And missed.

"Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can
you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may
be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum...=&threadid=3243

madmax

Just in case everyone missed it...

Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can
you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may
be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum...=&threadid=3243

madmax

Did I forget to mention the following post may have been missed:

Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can
you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may
be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum...=&threadid=3243

madmax

Did anyone miss this post?

Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can
you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may
be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum...=&threadid=3243

Larry Chanin

Originally posted by "Polk" Paul DiComo


Well that one about stacking subs is a new one on me and I confess that I have never tried it. My understanding of standing wave behavior tells me that it wouldn't do much good, but you never know. What I have found that works well when using two subs is to place then in very different positions - if one is in a corner, the other should be well away from walls - that sort of thing. The idea is to excite the air in the room in two different ways so as to lessen the effects of standing waves. You should get deeper, flatter and more uniform bass response throughout the room. I have found that getting great bass simply takes hard work and lots of time trying various room positions, listening and measuring and moving stuff again - whether you have two subs or one. You have to be nuts to be an audiophile. Just look at the people on this forum for proof.

Putting center channel speakers near each other is a whole different animal because the wavelengths that come out (mids and highs) are much shorter than bass wavelengths and that means you will get interference effects between the two centers. You should try it and you'll hear the tonal balance change as you change your position in the vertical and horizontal planes - the dispersion pattern will be erratic and not at all uniform across the listening window. It will sound bad to somebody in the room depending on their position in the room. And that is bad.

Paul:

Thanks very much for the response. Since posing my question I tried to recall where I got this idea about stacking subwoofs, and after a little research I found these comments below from people whose opinion I respect.

You are correct that a second identical sub, stacked on top of the first nets you 6dB.

Doesn't sound like much (no pun intended) but it is!

You are increasing total bass output and more importantly dynamic range and headroom.

At a given playback level each driver will be doing 25% of the work it would have to if on its own. This mean less distortion.

If there is a really good spot in your room for a subwoofer, the best place for a second one is on top of the first. If there is no one ideal location, then a pair of subs can be used to advantage by placing them in two locations which are the reciprocal of each other (ie two locations which excite different room modes).
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Brian Florian
Editor, Canada

Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity http://www.hometheaterhifi.com

If you stack the subs, they'll couple better and you'll get significantly more output than if they're placed in separate locations. More output means you can turn the level down, and they'll be more articulate. I like two subs over one because you can get the proper bass level with less excursion and you have more available headroom. Of course, you'll have to experiment with placement in your room to get the best results.
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Paul Scarpelli
Director of Sales & Marketing, Triad Speakers, Inc.

So I was wondering if you were to stack identical center channel speakers, wouldn't this minimize the changes in the horizontal plane since the drivers are in the same position in the horizontal plane? Changes in the vertical plane shouldn't matter since it's not likely that the audience will be continually standing up and sitting down (other than to get beers of course).

By the way, many of the purists say that most center channel speakers, including Polks, are already flawed because they are designed on their side. With two identical drivers spaced horizontally, this creates the interference situation that you discuss in your previous posting even without having a second center channel speaker located side-by-side.

Thanks again, and I'll wait patiently for you to circle back to the forum when your duties permit.

Larry

Micah Cohen

Just so's you know, Larry, Paul will be out of the office, spending company money traipsing all over the country, until 5/8. Hopefully he'll log on from his remote locs and see this, but please be patient.

Thanks!

MC

Larry Chanin

Thanks Micah:

Yes, Paul mentioned this schedule in his last posting.

Larry

-justin-

Originally posted by madmax001
Some of our posts get missed and missed and missed. And missed.

"Stuff does get missed now and then but I wouldn't take it too seriously. How can
you expect someone to read all those posts and never miss one. The link below may
be an example.

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum...=&threadid=3243

Have you actually tried to "click" those links????

~Justin

madmax

Yes, I did. After I post a link I always go back and check to make sure it worked. It does not work for me either at this point. I'll try to figure out why it is not working at this time.
madmax

madmax

Try this link:

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3243

Should be the same. It is in the Technical Setup section in case that makes a difference.
madmax

madmax

Yep, that one works. Maybe it changed over a period of time? It doesn't really matter to me because I already orded the four sets I need. I did note that on the ones I received that the info was the same on the packages as it was on the vibrapod site.
madmax

madmax

Did I win a set of LSi's???

Ron-P

Yes you did Max, there in the mail.


Peace Out~:D