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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited November 2005
    I'm withholding my answer until this one gets settled: Chemistry/math problem quick help :D

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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited November 2005
    No difference; both ropes will have the same strength and break with the same load.

    Because I know. :)
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2005
    so what did teach say..?
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited November 2005
    The shorter rope would support more weight than the longer because the longer rope would actually be heavier than the shorter thus decreasing the total.

    Sounds like me and ND's physics lessons from 20 years ago stuck... must be due to the increased length of beer drinking time :>)
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited November 2005
    organ wrote:
    Let's see... When I used to smoke up, I rolled long and short joints. While smoking, the longer joint would sometimes loose it's stiffness and bend towards the ground a little. Never had this problem with short ones. And I'm talking same rolling paper/same weed here.
    That thing you rolled would be of horizontal length while the rope would be vertical, different things. :)
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited November 2005
    With a perfect rope in a vertical orientation the only difference is the weight of the longer rope- thus the shorter rope can hold more weight.

    In the real world, you have additional factors:
    1)Statistically the probably of failure is greater on the longer rope, because it has a greater number of failure points. let's say the average breakage level at a point is 10 pounds- however, some are 12 lbs, some are 8lbs... and some are 6lbs- you're more likely to see that six pound one in a longer rope.

    2)you never have a perfect vertical load and the longer the rope, the more leverage can be exerted to cause a failure.
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  • Tex
    Tex Posts: 189
    edited November 2005
    I say they are the same. I think rope strength is determined by material and circumference, not length. But what do I know, I'm new to this forum and I still have a lot to learn :)
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2005
    The physics teacher said that there is no difference in their 'weight-holding-capablities'. They exactly the same.

    So,......I was wrong.....*sigh* :(
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited November 2005
    Good explanation of tensile strenght.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensile_strength
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