Whats the diferance?

Josh-S

I have to choes between the Monitor 40 series and the RTi4


The price is very close to being equal so my question is. Why for $30 more do you get a second driver? Or arnt the drivers the same? Which is better?

Thanks for your time!

MacLeod

The Monitor series is an entry level line while the RTi is an upper end line.

The RTi will have better contruction, a better enclosure, better drivers and a much better crossover and better sound quality.

Josh-S

oh, thank god! I was woried after finding this thread http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31873&highlight=RTi4

I figured this bickering would of started all over again! :eek:

I was looking at the POLK AUDIO Monitor Series 12-inch Powered Subwoofer but many people are recomending the SVS 10 inch sub Any ideas?

beardog03

oooooh...

he went there anyway..!!

Josh-S

beardog03 wrote:

oooooh...

he went there anyway..!!

I read the whole thread and found nothing usefull... Just abunch of bickering...

beardog03

I have a biased opinion...

I have the SVS PC-Ultra....

If you really want an outstanding HT sub...music also..

www.svsubwoofers.com

Josh-S

I am considering the JBL north series over the pulk due to there dramaticaly lower prices!

What do you think? JBBL vs Polk

MacLeod

You get what you pay for.

This is true nowhere more than in audio.

Josh-S

ok, so heres my problem/

I have a 4K infinity sound system in my car. I love it! I'd sell my left nut if I had to just to it it all over again! However I never even herd a polk speaker before...

I need to deside on a brand, primaraly Polk vs infinity vs JBL

If i went Infin. I would go beta series. polk would be RTi4's. Help me choes cause its been giving me aheadach all week long!

On one hand the Infinity towers are more afordable so I would be able to get a 4 driver 61/2 woffer towers, if I go polk I cant aford towers.. on the other hand the RTI4's cost aalot less then the Beta 20's I would need to use for my surounds if I went infin... Oh, PLEASE HELP! :eek:

dkg999

I know someone who has the JBL Northridge speakers for their HT. They actually sound pretty good at loud or louder sound levels, driven by a moderately priced home theater receiver. Sometimes the true measure of a speaker is how it sounds at low levels. The sound of the JBL's just goes away at low levels, the center does not reproduce voices well at all unless it is cranked way up. He is constantly amazed at how much sound fills the room at low volume levels with my HT, compared to his. The JBL's do seem to be pretty good at their price point, although I would check out the Klipsch line that Best Buy carries also. My vote, go with the RTi's and then you won't have to second guess your choice later on.

VR3

I think, Infinity paired with a sub is far more musical than the RT series. Except the Beta series - their metal grills blow...

But I've also felt Infinity's tweeters are mucho better than Polks. But Polk contains a much fuller sound, sometimes muddy to my ears...

But the Infinity would be better in music (if you took off the grills) and paired them with a nice ol subwoofer. Just a IMO...

I dont view JBL with much respect... another IMO

Josh-S

I gues it all comes down to this...



$510 for a pair

-VS-




$260 for a pair


The reason I cant get a tower from Polk is that I herd the monitor series isnt that great and I cant aford the RTi8's And when I look at it as plainly as this I tend to lean towards infinity... Buts its just not as black and white as that now is it?

Well, I did manage to get my hands on a pioneer Elite reciver that retails for$1,000 Did I mention I got it for $250 new???? hahaha Now I just gota sort this mess out! Oh, heres the reciver http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4155_123728223,00.html


EDIT: Vr3MxStyler2k3,

All I plan to use it for is music until I move out and have a decent living room. for now I will just buy the Fronts and a sub/ perhaps a center too...

ohskigod

whereas the infinity's (at least the new ones) are a little sharp for my tastes, tinny even. I'd rule out JBL, gota trust me on that one.

my vote, RTi4's and svs pb10 based on rep or Hsu Stf-2 based on my own ears.

ND13

I've had pretty good results from my little E150P JBL sub. I'm not into HT that much but use it for movies and TV in a 2.1 system. When I had it in my music rig, it did a commendable job for adding that extra oomph I needed at the time and was surprisingly musical. With that said, if I could have gotten a Polk for anywhere close to the price I paid, I would have done that. I guess if I ever did go all out on a HT rig I'd most likely get a SVS, HSU, or Veladyne. But for now the little JBL does quite nice.

I'm not trying to say that the JBL is some kind of godsend sub or anything, but that unless you've actually heard one in the right setting and used for the right purpose, it's not fair to dog it just because it says JBL on it. If you could have gotten it NIB for what I got it for, you would have done the same thing that I did.

danger boy

Josh-S,

Sell BOTH your nuts and get the RTi8's. and be done with it.


You're welcome.

audiobliss

Josh-S wrote:

I have a 4K infinity sound system in my car. I love it! I'd sell my left nut if I had to just to it it all over again! However I never even herd a polk speaker before...

Lemme put it this way. If you instead had an all Polk setup in your car, you'd be sayin' you'd sell both of 'em to do it all over again.

EDIT - Okay, I promise I didn't see the previous post until after I posted this.

Josh-S

Shure you didnt...

Ok, so all of you agree that the 8's are better then that infinity tower and that I should pay the extra for them?

I do have lots of stuff I can sell to help make the buying proses less painfull. But first I will need to know if this reciver is good enough to power them! Please look it over and compare it to the speakers. I think it wont have enough power to fully utalize the 8's potential...

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4155_123728223,00.html

ND13

I'd say that it will be fine for the 8s, but not the 10s or 12s.

VR3

If Music is first...

I say forget the RT line and get the LSi7

the RTi line is not exactly the most musical speakers on the market...

audiobliss

Indeed, if you're mainly interested in music, the LSi7 coupled with a small, tight sub will be much better than anything from the RTi line-up. However, the LSi series requires heftier amplification, and so you would need to drop some money into that.

Usually I'd say if you're patient you can bag a deal on some LSi7s. However, now I'm saying if you're quick, because Sean (Zero) is selling a pair of Ebony LSi7 in the Flea Market for $350 (if I remember correctly). Get those, and spend the rest on amplification and a small, musical sub and you'll have a MUCH nicer music rig.

danger boy

your receiver will have plenty of power for the RTi8's. if not. add a amp later down the road.

Josh-S

I'm really getting sick now. I cant seep, my heads stil lpounding! And now this ****! :mad:

" Email
<email@mpsuperstore.com> to me
More options 12:15 pm (49 minutes ago)
Dear JOSHUA STYER,

Your order has been CANCELED by your sales representative, Claire.
If you feel this was done in error or need additional information please contact
Claire and he/she will be able to provide you with the details.

You can reach Claire at 800-300-0615 or 718-769-1186 Ext.
Please reference order # 2238667 when calling.

Thank you.


Mon - Thurs 9:30 - 8:00pm
Fri 9:30 -3:00pm
Sat closed
Sun 10:00 - 7:00pm"

Now I'm reciverless again!


Not to mention I ate 2 Bacon egg and chesses form McD's and now my stomacs sick... Whats next?

Oh, look! A metor just hit my car! GREAT! :rolleyes:

audiobliss

Hehehehe....I always wanted a meteor.....lol...

So, is the receiver that just got cancelled the Pioneer you were talking about? So, if you don't get this one, you won't have a receiver? I'd say that's GREAT!! Now you haven't wasted your money on a receiver! Now you can buy Sean's LSi7 and then get a separate amp and preamp. They'll do the LSi7 a lot better than a receiver would, and you'll probably end up spending less money if you just skip the receiver route altogether.

So, I'd count this as more of a blessing...

Josh-S

wow now, hold on a min! I have just learned about recivers! "separate amp and preamp" My first responce is "WTF" Followed by "heck no"... I'm way to new at this to go that rout/ heck, I wouldnt even know where to buy them at!

Josh-S

oh, and thoes LSi7's are 4 ohms... So If I were to go that route I would need to match the speakers, and buy a center and rears.. that series isnt exactly afordible if you know what I mean! :eek:

I have decided to go cheap now that I lost that amp. deal

Monitor 50 = $400 Pair Cherry



Monitor 40 = $279 Pair cherry



CS1 = $175



HTR-5850 = $300



SVS 20-39PCi = $600 AKA 40inch. BEAST!



http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pci_20-39.htm


Thats why my budget got diminished, But I just gota have it! :eek:

audiobliss

I thought you were into music, though. If you want a HT, you would need the center and surrouns, but not if you're just going for music. Just a simple 2.1 (2 mains and a sub) system would be perfect.

As for not going with separates because of being new to the audio realm, that's foolish. I've only been on the audio scene for two (slow) years, so I'm still VERY MUCH a n00b, myself. I can look back and see that my receiver was a total waste of money. I could have gotten so much better in separates for the same amount of money or even less, and it's absolutely no harder or more difficult to use than a receiver. The only thing is that, since you're buying two units (preamp and amp), you may not be able to get them both at the same time, since you're waiting to spring on a good deal.

In case you're not totally sure what separates means, exactly...
A receiver performs several functions. Frist, it usually has a radio tuner, so it's acting as a source. Next, it has a processor for HT, time alignment settings, tone controls, etc. and so is being used as a preamp. (Anything that takes connections from a source, uses a volume pot (knob) to change the volume, and then sends connections to an amp is a preamp.) Next, the receiver is also acting as an amp. It amplifies the signal so it is strong enough to drive the speakers. Receivers usually have adequate radio tuners, almost adequate preamps, and just tolerable amplifier sections.

Separates are just that: separate. You have a preamp that is a standalone unit that is of much better quality than that which is found in a receiver. You also have an amplifier that is a standalone unit that is WORLDS nicer than the amp section in the receiver.

As you pointed out, the LSi series are 4ohm speakers, meaning they place more demand on the amplifier. Thus, the majority of receiver won't drive the LSi series, and practically no receiver will drive them well. Thus, an external amplifier would be much better.

Separates aren't that complicated/difficult/inconvenient. I would never say you shouldn't go with separates just because you're new to audio. That's no excuse for wasting money on a receiver like I did. If you can afford/have-the-patience-to-wait-for-good-deals-in-the-Flea Market on separates, you'll be MUCH better off doing that.

And if you're going just for music, go with Sean's LSi7. If, however, you're going for a HT, you're right, it'll cost a lot more to with an LSi system. However, depending on your budget/time frame, it may still be possible and will most certainly be better.

audiobliss

Oh, and I'm not exactly sure what you mean about 'matching' the speakers. I'm assuming that you currently have a center and some surrounds. If so, you'd just calibrate your system so that the center and surrounds (I'm assuming are 8ohms) won't be louder than your (4ohm) mains. Now, this of course isn't an ideal HT system and you would want to eventually fill it out with LSi speakers, but it'd work long enough for you to slowly piece together a system.

Hope that helps a bit!!
audiobliss

Josh-S

Thats alot of info! I am going to buy it all at once so I have 8 weeks now to decide. I edited my post above with my latest theroy. ANd I am going to look into seperates. My plan for now is to use it for music because I live at my parents and my room is getting cramped. dont have the room to use surounds YET... But in 7-9 months I will be moved out and then it will be used for both. So I must plan for this... Well, I'm off to look into seperats!

Josh-S

I just recived my speaker cables from parts express... I just gota say how well these things are built! Top notch, and they look like a million bucks to! But the 14ga. copper wires are very thick, and hard to bend. Theres alot of coding on them and since the wires inside are breaded and shelided then coated there rather thick.... But none the less, there top notch! :eek: If you have no idea what I'm talking about look up Dayton cables. there partsexpresses own brand. They go **** all and aperantly top notch! :cool:


Edit: oh, and seperats are way too expensive for me to do right now. However I have decided on the RTi series for now. Yea, I'm springing for the RTi8's \

See, I relized somerthing here...

Monitor 50 57-24k Hz
Monitor 60 48-24k Hz
RTi8's 40-26k Hz < Droped 17Hz

Willow

Wow seems you're all over the map with your choices.

Good luck !!

Josh-S

yep, and its driving me crazy! I just cant decide