Rap Music

LiquidSound
LiquidSound Posts: 1,261
edited September 2005 in Music & Movies
So I'm spinning the dial, trying to find something good on the radio. I find a local rap station and leave it there. I'm not a huge fan of rap, but I like to mix things up now and again.
Ok, so four songs in a row, they're using samples from other songs as the hook. Granted this was a top 40 rap station..buy have a lot the artists just ran out of ideas? Have the just given up and decided to thread together other songs and place their name on it?
My question is, when will we hear a song, sampling another songs' sample of another song..make sense? :D
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    Almost all rap songs sample, thats the way its always been.
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  • LiquidSound
    LiquidSound Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2005
    I know they do, but it seems to be much more rampant nowadays. Yeah, you'd use a clip here and there in your song, but not make the entire song samples...
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    when you have no real talent other than knowing how to rhyme and talk about your bling, money and ****... all you can do is sample.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited September 2005
    Using the words Rap and Music in the same sentence is grounds for immediate banishment from The Club Polk Forum....not only that but people will point and giggle at you.
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  • LiquidSound
    LiquidSound Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2005
    Oh damn, you mean other people can see this?
    I'll close the door on my way out...
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    i've grown out of rap music myself, but damn!........i sure do miss the oh so sweet lows that accompany most rap songs. i find myself looking for new music genres that remember to include the sub-bass. as i stated in the speakers forum, i've got my cheap sony sub replacement in the form of the svs pb12-plus/2 shipping my way. :eek: :eek:

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2005
    Careful with that sub,, Eugene. :D
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  • BIZILL
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    edited September 2005
    .........most definately! i'm just soooo afraid of everything in my home rattling and causing those unwanted resonances. even my fireplace door is bound to rattle and piss me off.........guess i'll just have to turn the svs up louder to drown out the excess noises!

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • ND13
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    edited September 2005
    george daniel wrote:
    Careful with that sub,, Eugene. :D

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2005
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    Nice one!!

    Thank you, thank you very much,,Indeed
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2005
    RAP rhymes with CRAP!
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  • BIZILL
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    edited September 2005
    i dunno. i'd have to say that some intstrumentation in rap is very clean-sounding. i love rock and alternative now, but the "vocals" and high notes, as well as lows that accompany rap music sound........."separated"?, compared to the wailing of guitars in the rock i love. i love chevelle for example, but most of their songs just sound loud and "un-separated"? even sound all "hashed" together? please, no one tell me it's my audio set-up. just the nature of rock. grunge is even worse.

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    Almost all rap songs sample, thats the way its always been.

    Always, is the key word. Even from its very start and conception.

    It can get a little tiresome though.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited September 2005
    Frank Z wrote:
    Using the words Rap and Music in the same sentence is grounds for immediate banishment from The Club Polk Forum....not only that but people will point and giggle at you.


    A huge +1. The only time 'rap' can be used in the same sentence with 'music' is if it's a 'is not music'.
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  • MacLeod
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    edited September 2005
    Toxis wrote:
    when you have no real talent other than knowing how to rhyme and talk about your bling, money and ****... all you can do is sample.


    Amen. Thats why rap isnt music. Nothing is written, no instruments are being played and nobody is singing. Playing somebodys music in the background while you talk about how cool you are isnt music.
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  • ledhed
    ledhed Posts: 1,088
    edited September 2005
    I agree that new rap is not music-not music at all. But, the old stuff, I just love De La Soul and the only Tupac I have, California Love, I like that. I don't feel as though these are not music

    And BIZILL, that is what is wrong with music today-they digitally (artificially) make the music louder so that everything is more compressed and just meshes together. It is very hard to find new rock CDs that don't do this. But, older CDs like Collective Soul do'n have the "loudness Factor" and thus sound much better

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  • hellohello
    hellohello Posts: 428
    edited September 2005
    I guess i just have to agree that music is played by "someone" not "something"... an electric guitar, even tho it is part of a giant machine (head and cab, pedals..) can do nothing unless it is wielded by human hand. Now some human hands are more worthy than others... but thats another story. Its kinda funny how the old "rebelious" music of yesteryear is now tame and seems more real than the prefabricated rebellious music of today. I have no idea where i was going with this, so ill stop now and go listen to Bach
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2005
    :D You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose,,but you can't pick your friends noses" :D
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited September 2005
    I like lots of music, including rap, and I'm not afraid to admit it. So there!
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2005
    How are a rap version of "Land of Confusion" with Genesis and its new lead singer, Eminem? :eek:

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    Actually, it's quite amusing. :D
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    I like rap, even though its on the same skill level as country.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    I like rap, even though its on the same skill level as country.


    C'mon now Thuggy. There are a lot of skilled musicians playing country. Dont get me wrong, I cant stand country anymore than the next guy but I do recognize the skill involved.

    Hell, "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" is probably the most hillbilly song ever yet the fiddle (aka violin) work in that song is unreal.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Hell, "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" is probably the most hillbilly song ever yet the fiddle (aka violin) work in that song is unreal.

    I love that song. Also, A local band called Pomeroy does a great rendition of it.

    Just like any kind of music, there is good and bad. Most of my CD's fall into the rap category, but I also recognize that there are tons of horrible, badly mixed rap songs with lame lyrics out there. Same for rock music, and so on and so on.

    Lately, I've been listening to the AC/DC Highway to Hell during my daily commute. I'm sure this will change when my new car gets here and I mount the dual Polk 15 inchers.

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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    I'm sure this will change when my new car gets here and I mount the dual Polk 15 inchers.

    P-Thuggy


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  • BrentMcGhee
    BrentMcGhee Posts: 548
    edited September 2005
    Well now, while we are bashing rap i just have a question to ask to the people that probably listen to it alot more than i do. Why does every single rap "artist" insist on yelling out there name several times during all their songs and then most of the time spell it out as well.

    ??????? makes no freaking sense.... the only reason i can think of is that they know that the majority of their target audience is illiterate and ignorant therefore need to be constantly reminded of who they are listning to and then they have to tell them how to spell there name so when they go to buy there cd's they will be able to find them in that crazy scheme that most record stores like to use called abc order.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    BrentMcGhee wrote:
    Well now, while we are bashing rap i just have a question to ask to the people that probably listen to it alot more than i do. Why does every single rap "artist" insist on yelling out there name several times during all their songs and then most of the time spell it out as well.

    ??????? makes no freaking sense.... the only reason i can think of is that they know that the majority of their target audience is illiterate and ignorant therefore need to be constantly reminded of who they are listning to and then they have to tell them how to spell there name so when they go to buy there cd's they will be able to find them in that crazy scheme that most record stores like to use called abc order.

    Who's the ignorant one here?
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  • BrentMcGhee
    BrentMcGhee Posts: 548
    edited September 2005
    PolkThug wrote:
    Who's the ignorant one here?
    ????
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited September 2005
    BrentMcGhee wrote:
    Well now, while we are bashing rap i just have a question to ask to the people that probably listen to it alot more than i do. Why does every single rap "artist" insist on yelling out there name several times during all their songs and then most of the time spell it out as well.

    ??????? makes no freaking sense.... the only reason i can think of is that they know that the majority of their target audience is illiterate and ignorant therefore need to be constantly reminded of who they are listning to and then they have to tell them how to spell there name so when they go to buy there cd's they will be able to find them in that crazy scheme that most record stores like to use called abc order.

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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2005
    BrentMcGhee wrote:
    ??????? makes no freaking sense.... the only reason i can think of is that they know that the majority of their target audience is illiterate and ignorant therefore need to be constantly reminded of who they are listning to and then they have to tell them how to spell there name so when they go to buy there cd's they will be able to find them in that crazy scheme that most record stores like to use called abc order.

    Please tell me you don't seriously believe this.
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  • Maurice
    Maurice Posts: 517
    edited September 2005
    BrentMcGhee wrote:
    the majority of their target audience is illiterate and ignorant


    All I can say is WOW!!! :confused:
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