Anybody going to watch the U.S. Open finals in the Big Apple today?

aaharvel
aaharvel Posts: 4,489
edited April 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
I'm ASSuming there aren't many tennis fans on this forum, but today is going to be special. Quite possibly Andre Agassi's last match- and he's going up against the greatest tennis player of all time in Roger Federer (sorry for all the Sampras fans=)

With Arthur Ashe Stadium in New York and it being 9/11- even if you're not into tennis i recommend tuning in to CBS at 4pm est. I think it will be a historic and very special sporting event. :)
H/K Signature 2.1+235
Jungson MagicBoat II
Revel Performa M-20
Velodyne cht-10 sub
Rega P1 Turntable

"People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
Post edited by RyanC_Masimo on
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
«1

Comments

  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    Been watching it for the past two weeks as time allows. Some really great matches this year. Agassi vs. Blake was almost as exciting as watching Jimmy Connors' march to the semi's in 1991. Tennis popularity has gone down over the years, but I still watch as much as I can. Even the women's matches this year were exciting....beyond the skimpy outfits :p . Still don't play as often as I'd like. I used to be into playing alot, but just don't have the time or opponents anymore it seems.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    aaharvel wrote:
    I'm ASSuming there aren't many tennis fans on this forum, but today is going to be special. Quite possibly Andre Agassi's last match- and he's going up against the greatest tennis player of all time in Roger Federer (sorry for all the Sampras fans=)

    Uh Oh....here we go! Federer the greatest of all time :confused: :eek: .

    Sorry have to politely disagree....Ever heard of John McEnroe?? :cool: What a remarkable player.....poor attitude....but a tennis genious. Has done more for the game on and off the court than anyone other than Arthur Ashe.

    IMHO of course aaharvel ;)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    As usual, we're at odds. Sampras rules.

    I would like to watch this match if Im home. Im a big fan of Agassi and would like to see him do well although I believe Federer is going to be too much. Still it should be a very good match.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Bjorn Borg, I mean really guys, come on. Look at the comp he had to play against, from the beginning to the end of his career.

    It doesn't always have to come down to how many majors a player has won, does it???
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    It doesn't always have to come down to how many majors a player has won, does it???

    Yeah, it kinda does.

    Winning is kinda how you judge whos better than others.
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Oh so the competition doesn't come into play.

    Plus I pretty sure that Borg won his share of majors.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Fogrive me if Im wrong, but in order to win doesnt that mean youve beaten the competiton? :p
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    He won 11 majors, that's right ELEVEN and at the height of men's tennis.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    And Pete's won 14!
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Any way, I'm just pushing buttons, while Borg is my all-time male tennis player, I think to try and say that any one player is the best ever is kinda futile. Borg, Sampras, and Federer played in different eras and against different competition, though Sampras and Federer did play a couple of years together. I can't recollect if Sampras and Borg did or not.

    I know how many Pete won, I just didn't think you knew how many Borg had won. :) I don't think many really do realize how many majors Borg won.

    Those three, imo, are on equal playing fields, though I fear, barring injury, that Federer might end up surpassing both in the not so distant future.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    All great players mentioned in this thread. It comes down to a subjective opinion. What you're essentially saying MacLeod is the same as saying the measurements of one audio component are better than another, therefore it's a better component. We all know that isn't nec true. The best doesn't nec have to be the one with the most wins (or best measurements). Plus it's extremely hard to compare across different generations of players. Different degrees of competition during different era's.

    One accomplishment that has only been done by 1 player (Jimmy Connors) is that he won the US Open on three different surfaces. That for some would rank him as the all time great. Gotta get back to the match

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    Federer's 24. He's won 5 majors in just 3years (6 after today?) and he's not even in his prime yet. When all is said and done- he'll eclipse the records of everybody. He has a perfect game on ALL surfaces- neither Borg or Sampras can claim that. jmo.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Yeah, Borg was best on grass and clay.

    Agassi is looking damn good so far, it's like he's on mission the way he's hitting the ball. He looks like the Andre of ten years ago.

    OH SNAP!! Did you just see that Sampras commercial whaere he tell's that Mrs. Agassi holds the women's record for most consecutive weeks at no. 1, then tells us that he holds the men's record. :eek:
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    aaharvel wrote:
    Federer's 24. He's won 4 majors (5 after today?) and he's not even in his prime yet. When all is said and done- he'll eclipse the records of everybody. He has a perfect game on ALL surfaces- neither Borg or Sampras can claim that. jmo.

    Pure speculation..... ;) No doubt he's by far the best player playing currently. Andre looks good so far!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    What really bothers me is as much as I want to dislike Federer for whatever reason, it's just not possible to do. He's a really cool guy.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    aaharvel wrote:
    Federer's 24. He's won 4 majors (5 after today?) and he's not even in his prime yet. When all is said and done- he'll eclipse the records of everybody. He has a perfect game on ALL surfaces- neither Borg or Sampras can claim that. jmo.

    Yeah...all those claims about how records will be eclipsed were made about Martina Hingis, the Williams sisters and others and they never came true. Someone will come along in the next few years that will be better than Federer, it seems to always happen in tennis these days.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    heiney9 wrote:
    Yeah...all those claims about how records will be eclipsed were made about Martina Hingis, the Williams sisters and others and they never came true. Someone will come along in the next few years that will be better than Federer, it seems to always happen in tennis these days.

    H9

    Exactly, anybody remember Ivan Lendl or Boris Becker??? They were supposed to be the end all.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2005
    While I would agree that in a lot of sports, who the best is is much more subjective, but when you're talking about singles tennis... number of wins is one of the only ways to judge the best, I'm sorry. I'ts not a team sport, the only real measure of your greatness is your record. You start bringing into account WHO you beat and it just gets silly - who's to say that one person in one era couldn't beat another in another era? Being great in a sport like tennis means beating all who oppose you, at that time. Do that consistently, and you're great. Do it more than anyone else, you're the best.

    Comparing it to somehting subjective like audio is silly.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    My "Favorite" male tennis players of all time.
    Borg
    Agassi
    Edberg
    Sampras
    McEnroe
    Pat Cash (yep, he was cool)
    Forgot to put Chang in there, he always impressed me with his baseline game and how fast he was even though he had those stubby little legs. :D
    Never really cared for Connors, though. He kinda got on my nerves.

    One more, I like Roddick, too. Now you wanna talk about a serve, geeesh!!! 156mph is freakin nuts.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    What really bothers me is as much as I want to dislike Federer for whatever reason, it's just not possible to do. He's a really cool guy.

    I agree and he has great talent. The biggest thing I dislike about tennis today is the power. There are no more finesse players like John McEnroe. I hate the fact that there is a huge lack of serve and vollyers in both men's and women's tennis. I attribute that to the power game.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    My "Favorite" male tennis players of all time.
    Borg
    Agassi
    Edberg
    Sampras
    McEnroe
    Pat Cash (yep, he was cool)

    Never really cared for Connors, though. He kinda got on my nerves.

    McEnroe
    Connors
    Borg
    Agassi
    Sampras
    Edberg
    Becker
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    bobman1235 wrote:
    While I would agree that in a lot of sports, who the best is is much more subjective, but when you're talking about singles tennis... number of wins is one of the only ways to judge the best, I'm sorry. I'ts not a team sport, the only real measure of your greatness is your record. You start bringing into account WHO you beat and it just gets silly - who's to say that one person in one era couldn't beat another in another era? Being great in a sport like tennis means beating all who oppose you, at that time. Do that consistently, and you're great. Do it more than anyone else, you're the best.

    Comparing it to somehting subjective like audio is silly.

    Well if you are just talking about wins then Jimmy Connors is the best because he has the most mens titles....so I guess that settles it! ;)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    heiney9 wrote:
    Well if you are just talking about wins then Jimmy Connors is the best because he has the most mens titles....so I guess that settles it! ;)

    H9

    But all anyone seems to care about is majors for some strange reason, as if winning one of the other tournaments is easier to do :confused::confused:
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    Yeah and what about weeks ranked at #1 consecutively? I believe Connors or McEnroe has that streak as well. I guess this means once Tiger Woods eclipses Jack Nicholas's all time win record then Jack will be chopped liver. :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    go Andre Go !!!!
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    WOW That was a great 2nd set!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2005
    Does Andre remind anyone else of Yoda in Star Wars Ep 2? He can barely walk, all but hobbling onto the court, but he sprints around as soon as play starts. It's b'zah.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    bobman1235 wrote:
    Does Andre remind anyone else of Yoda in Star Wars Ep 2? He can barely walk, all but hobbling onto the court, but he sprints around as soon as play starts. It's b'zah.

    LOL...put some ears on him and paint im green!

    Win, he will...forseen it is

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    Come On Agassi!!!!!!!
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,219
    edited September 2005
    Holy Crap this is some really great tennis :D:D:D

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter