Difference between Monitor and RTi Series ?
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Eman wrote:Go back and compare some more side by side the M40 to Rti4 the M60 towers against the RTi6 no way the Rti bookshelves are better. What will you say next? Because the Monitors are inferior my $800 M70 towers dont sound as good as any RTi speaker including the RTi4 RTi6 and RTi8 ? Only in your dreams my young padawan.
What would I say next? Id say Im getting sick of your smart **** attitude.
Why would I want to compare a bookshelf speaker with 1 driver to a floor speaker with 3 drivers? You want to compare those M70's? Then compare them to a comparable speaker which would be the RTi12, which would mop the floor with the 70, just like the RTi8 does with the M50 and the RTi4 does with the M30.polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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Eman wrote:Go back and compare some more side by side the M40 to Rti4 the M60 towers against the RTi6 no way the Rti bookshelves are better. What will you say next? Because the Monitors are inferior my $800 M70 towers dont sound as good as any RTi speaker including the RTi4 RTi6 and RTi8 ? Only in your dreams my young padawan.
Next time, don't act like you're some all knowing Jedi when obviously you're still in the learning phases of audio yourself. Thank you... good night.Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.
Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.
Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener. -
New guy comes in, new guys talk smarty-smart, new guy has no forum etiquette.
Eman... if you want to converse, try to be a bit less condescending. Last time I looked, your system doesnt warrant the air of superiority you are trying to impose.
Just my impression of this thread.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Joey_V wrote:New guy comes in, new guys talk smarty-smart, new guy has no forum etiquette.
Eman... if you want to converse, try to be a bit less condescending. Last time I looked, your system doesnt warrant the air of superiority you are trying to impose.
Just my impression of this thread.Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
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People if you think an RTi4, Rti6 sound better than an M60 or an RTi 4,6,8 sounds/is better than an M70 then you all know nothing about speakers. But I will put it in simple words BMW cars are more refined than chevys or Fords and more luxurious and prestigious etc. but a Chevy Corvette can waste a few of these cars SAME thing here. My claim is that certain Monitors are better than some RTis and this is a fact if they were not then they all would not only cost less, but would also have lower specs as well.
You are privileged to have a smart new guy like me on these forums - from the looks of things you need people like me who deal with the facts and voice their opinions being straight and to the point. Next time Ill try and be more sensitive - did not mean to hurt your fragile feelings. I look forward to posting more facts in this forum. Adios. -
screw you ****. Pithy enough for ya?
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You're comparing Monitor floorstanders to Rti bookshelves. Apples to oranges. Go troll on Yahoo! boards we don't do that bs here. -
aaharvel wrote:**** you. pithy enough for ya? Go troll on Yahoo! boards we don't do that bs here.
I see this explains it - with responses like this its a miracle you know anything about speakers. I can post anywhere I want as long as my opinions are fact based and true to the best of my knowledge and this I do have plenty of, but if you dont want to hear the truth go find another hobby and stop wasting my time.
What ? you think this hobby is for white rich people only with separates and higher priced equipment? Hilarious! But if you would like we can discuss this in person and bring your Rtis so we can compare - I WILL TEACH YOU A LESSON. -
RuSsMaN wrote:To answer the original question, a few bucks and a better mid-bass driver.
Anyone that says 'Padawan' in their post is a homo of the highest order, and should NEVER be taken seriously. This type of person is known to wack it like a red-assed monkey, dressed only in a burlap robe, with action figures abound in said room.
Think brohams.
The guy had his demos from, and has based his conclusions on, rooms at CC and Tweeter. Hello? McFly?
Cheers,
Rooster
Hey Roster why dont you come over and I WILL TEACH YOU A LESSON. As for your inner fantasies there are Forums for fetish on the net - please keep this strictly about speakers. Thank You. -
Eman wrote:but if you dont want to hear the truth go find another hobby and stop wasting my time. What ? you think this hobby is for white rich people only with separates and higher priced equipment? Hilarious! But if you would like we can discuss this in person and bring your Rtis so we can compare - I WILL TEACH YOU A LESSON.
You're generalizing people on here that you don't even know; always the first sign of unintelligence. As far as teaching me a lesson? That sounds great (sarcasm)- Nothing would honor me more than to travel half-way around the country w/ my lowly BOOKSHELF speakers in anticipation of a showdown with your big, bad FLOORSTANDERS- because like you, I obviously have no life. :rolleyes: -
Eman I sense some doubt in you, if you felt so strongly about the monitors why do you keep posting ? The biggest fool of all is the man who fools himself...
Didn't we have an lsi vs rti thread like this awhile back ?The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. -
he Monitor series is our excellent sounding introductory model speaker. Everything that makes up the speaker is chosen because it represents the best dollar value. It is a speaker system that allows an owner to assemble a superb sounding music listening system or home theater combination for a moderate amount of money.
The next level of performance is the RTi series. These speakers use sophisticated tweeters, drivers and crossover designs that allow the careful listener to hear more detail and definition in whatever is being played. The RTi series cabinets are covered in real wood, as opposed to a vinyl covered cabinet.The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. -
Exactly why do you keep comparing Rti bookshelves to towers? Compare it pricewise the Monitor 40 is more expensive than the rti4, the rti4 sounds much better than the 40's. The rti6 sounds better then the m50 not much of a comparsion there. M60's don't match up to the Rti8s. The list goes on.Setup:
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Glaferri to answer your original post the Rti bookshelves are better than monitor bookshelves- just as the rti floorstanders are better than monitor floorstanders. Apples to apples, oranges to oranges but since I don't know anything about speakers and should go somewhere else- i'm probably wrong. :rolleyes:
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I think this same guy is trolling the AVS forums....check the speaker forum and look for the Polk Monitor thread....you can find a glaringly similar poster talking about comparing his Monitor 70's to "measly RTi Bookshelves" while using more Star Wars nonsense. I am a Monitor 70 owner myself. I love them...they offer very good sound at a resonable price, but I'm not gonna be stupid and say they will destroy a LIKE tower in the RTi line. If the RTi12 wasn't so power hungry, I'd own those right now instead of the Monitors, but the Monitors are pretty efficient and sound good....to me, they sound better than Infinity Beta 50's, which is pretty good in my book. To me, it sounds like jealousy....he is trying to make up for his audio inadaquacies (sp?) by claiming his Monitor 70's will destroy RTi's with no real basis behind his statement. If you like your Monitors like I do, good....be happy about it, but don't try to persuade people they are better than RTi's. Even a fellow Monitor 70 owner will call you nuts. The RTi's are the better speaker....but they require a lot of power. If you can't run this extra power, than the Monitor 70 is a very good alternative....considerably better than other speakers I compared (Infinity, Klipsch, Paradigm, etc.)Haman/Kardon AVR635
Polk Audio Monitor 70x2
Polk Audio RTi38x2
Polk Audio RTi28x2
Polk Audio CSi30
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Eman wrote:People if you think an RTi4, Rti6 sound better than an M60 or an RTi 4,6,8 sounds/is better than an M70 then you all know nothing about speakers. But I will put it in simple words BMW cars are more refined than chevys or Fords and more luxurious and prestigious etc. but a Chevy Corvette can waste a few of these cars SAME thing here. My claim is that certain Monitors are better than some RTis and this is a fact if they were not then they all would not only cost less, but would also have lower specs as well.
You are privileged to have a smart new guy like me on these forums - from the looks of things you need people like me who deal with the facts and voice their opinions being straight and to the point. Next time Ill try and be more sensitive - did not mean to hurt your fragile feelings. I look forward to posting more facts in this forum. Adios.Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
.Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers. -
OK I will leave this place as this is my last post but hear this:
One can right now go to Tweeter and purchase a set of M60 (wood cabinets) Euros for the amazing price of $350. One also can purchase a set of M70 towers from CC for $630. Now how much is a pair of RTi6 currently going for $340! How about a set of RTi4s with a set of decent stands? $340! Amazing. How about a pair of RTi8s? Oh my $630! How about comparing dollar to dollar ?
How you like them Apples?
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Eman wrote:OK I will leave this place as this is my last post but hear this:
One can right now go to Tweeter and purchase a set of M60 (wood cabinets) Euros for the amazing price of $350. One also can purchase a set of M70 towers from CC for $630. Now how much is a pair of RTi6 currently going for $340! How about a set of RTi4s with a set of decent stands? $340! Amazing. How about a pair of RTi8s? Oh my $630! How about comparing dollar to dollar ?
How you like them Apples?
Later BaterRogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
.Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers. -
Eman wrote:OK I will leave this place as this is my last post
Finally, a bright spot in my day!Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
Who will teach us all we need to about audio now?Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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Wow, that was absolutely hilarious! Someone actually tried to tell Russman something about speakers. hahahaha This is actually very comical. Need it to be funnier? HE HONESTLY BELIEVES THIS CRAP! HAHAHAHAHAH Tool...
Now eman, if you ever come back (which you will because you can't leave without the last word), let me tell you something. The Monitor 70's might sound FULLER than say the RTi6's but in terms of sound QUALITY, they don't compare. Period. If you want to get into driver design, x-over componentry, cabinet design... please let's do so and you will flat out get your **** handed to you. But if you want to say "I say it sounds better, it's a fact." without a shred of proof, keep lying to yourself. Sure your ears might like them more but quite frankly, you don't have a clue what to listen for. Ignorance breeds ignorance.
So if you want to continue, do tell us what all you're running your amazing M70's with and don't forget your cables/placement/room dimentions... this should get good.Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.
Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.
Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener. -
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The RTi series are superior to the Monitor series... period.
You will get a better party speaker off the Monitor 70 but you wont get the critical listening pleasure that you would otherwise get with the RTi (i.e. RTi6). It's the way Polk designed the lines to be and it's the way they both sounded to me during my auditions.
As for Eman, he'll be back. If he doesnt, then that's peachy-er.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Outside of design, features, MSRP - at the end of the day it boils down to what YOU like better. THAT is the better speaker for you, beit Monitor, RTi, LSi, etc etc.
Cheers,
RussCheck your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service. -
RuSsMaN wrote:Outside of design, features, MSRP - at the end of the day it boils down to what YOU like better. THAT is the better speaker for you, beit Monitor, RTi, LSi, etc etc.
Cheers,
Russ
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RuSsMaN wrote:Outside of design, features, MSRP - at the end of the day it boils down to what YOU like better. THAT is the better speaker for you, beit Monitor, RTi, LSi, etc etc.
Cheers,
Russ
I agree.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
aaharvel wrote:i like bose and klh.System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300
System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES
System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps
System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD