2 ch DVD oportunity lost.

madmax

I'm a two channel guy. I listen to 2 channel music for the outright fidelity. I don't really care if it is LP, CD, DVD-A or SACD, just the end 2 channel sound.

With that said I think the marketers of these media are missing something which many of us 2 channel people would love to have, at least I would.

Picture this, High quality 2 channel sound with great mixing. Same as older LP's, CD's etc. Here is the twist. While playing the music a video track has whatever the artist feels is reasonable on the video. Not a music video or a movie to go with the sound. What I'm thinking of is quite different. For example lets say we have Jimmy Smith, the well known B3 organ player, playing a standard 2 channel song. Shown would be footage of him doing all the extreme things he does while playing. Maybe the recording engineer is shown mixing a particular part where the sound is being panned from left to right. Real stuff, not some clever manipulations of video art or feel good video. You know, stuff us audiophiles would be interested in rather than cars going down the street or dance club scenes like you are likely to see in a music video. Same technology, just a different way to look at it.

madmax


Edit: A good example would be old ZZ Top recordings. Wouldn't it be really cool to see those guys in different booths laying down their tracks in a studio? I can even see a menu where you could select a particular part and select that one guy in a booth going to town with a solo with all else muted, stuff like that.

TroyD

MM,

One piece of gear that has piqued my interest is the Jolida tube DVD player. Too bad it does DVD-A instead of SACD but for my 2ch HT needs, I'm thinking that would be a cool item.

BDT

reeltrouble1

MM,

Their is a DVD-A disc that does something like what you mention. The disc is Jonatha Brooke--Steady Pull, A lyric in the title track goes, I feel the Steady Pull of something I cant see. Now that does describe an Audiophile/Enthusiast or what.

First off she is incredibly talented, she wrote all the music, words, arrangements etc. She plays at least a half-dozen instruments, guitars, acoustics, bass, piano, organ, drums, ukelele. The tunes include violin, viola, sitars, much of the bass is done with a the full upright, that sounds well incredible. Oh yea and she sizzles, I mean she rocks this old guy on lots of levels. Even the still photo's were done with style and purpose. OK so you get the idea I really really like this disc which BTW the SDA is strong. Of course the DVD-A has your selection of 2 ch 172/24 bit or the other one. Its her own label BAD DOG RECORDS, she wont cow tow to the big labels. She reminds me a bit of Aimee Mann but happier and can reach Soprano voice levels when she wants.

The DVD-A side of the disc has alot of extras and a nice little thing called Push the Button that is like what you are talking about as the band if firing up for Linger another great tune that starts things off. There is a bunch of other stuff to pick off the menu. There is Rock, Calypso, a Lullabye great beats and soft movments.

Flip the disc over and you get exactly what you want, Jonatha talking and playing and describing her thoughts, Bob Clearmountain who did the recording ( a bass player no less) talking about the records the mix and so on.

I cant tell you how much I agree with you about DVD-A and this disc is the closest one I have seen doing the high rez and then getting to the artists and bands soul. Its not perfect but its what DVD-A ought to be, I think she deserves our support and I recommend the disc to anyone, I think AudioRevolution is where I saw a review about this artist and disc in the DVD-A archive or somewhere like that. Get this, when I got the disc mailed to me my address was hand written on the envelope.

RT1

PolknPepsi

madmax wrote:

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Picture this, High quality 2 channel sound with great mixing. Same as older LP's, CD's etc. Here is the twist. While playing the music a video track has whatever the artist feels is reasonable on the video. Not a music video or a movie to go with the sound. What I'm thinking of is quite different. For example lets say we have Jimmy Smith, the well known B3 organ player, playing a standard 2 channel song. Shown would be footage of him doing all the extreme things he does while playing. Maybe the recording engineer is shown mixing a particular part where the sound is being panned from left to right.
madmax

I think it is a great idea!

Dont know if they will ever do it because of the popularity of multi-channel, and thats where the money is so to speak.

Emlyn

King Crimson put out a live music DVD in 1998 called Deja Vroom. It's not DVD-A, but is DTS surround. There's one song that offers the choice of seven camera angles, each of which is dedicated to one of the musicians so a user can see what he is doing and the surround sound mix emphasizes that artist. A few of the other songs have alternate camera angels as well. This was something that was built into DVD early on, but hardly any other artists have made use of it. I thought it was a good idea.

George Grand

So, you're saying you NEED something to LOOK at, while you're LISTENING?

Gong!

Whoa, here comes Gene Gene The Dancing Machine!!!!

George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

reeltrouble1

George Grand wrote:

So, you're saying you NEED something to LOOK at, while you're LISTENING?

No GG I dont. Their is potential to learn about the individual artists/bands and their music. After listening to the music I want the extras to be better than what I have seen on the ones I have, with the exception of the Jonatha Brooke I mentioned, I thought thats what DVD-A discs would be instead of just mostly still shots and lyrics.

Break a leg.

RT1

PolknPepsi

The only music DVD I have is Animusic and the computer generated instruments play as the music rolls along. The instruments as well as the music is computer synthesizer(?sp) generated.

Maybe someday I'll ask for suggestions about everyones favorite music DVD and try one to see what it's like. My guess is they are geared towards multichannel and not my two channel.

mantis

The vision was met when DVD audio was born. But the 2 channel thing you can set that up that way yourself. If you have a high quality theater speaker package and high quality gear to go with it, you can experience this.

I'm killed on SACD and DVD AUDIO due to software but I have heard many that blew me away. Sound quality is there and the video with DVD AUDIO, you should try again with those formats and see where it takes you.

Dan