Got a new project!!! I mean truck...

exalted512

Thats right, finally...a new truck. 2004 GMC, 4.8 V8 with 28k miles. I'm kind of depressed its the 4.8 and not the 5.3, but hey, a new truck is a new truck and i really like this one. It was $18k.

This truck has big plans though. About $400 will be spent on sound deadener alone. Its going to have my DLS Iridiums and Adire Brahmas running off of USAmps. I'll have the TU-300 running to the midbass(which might be upgraded to the DLS 8" midbass someday) and the TU-4360 running the midrange and tweeter. Thats right bishes, tri-amping, bi-amping is for pussies. The subs will be ran off a modified USAmps AX2000. It will be modified to do its bridged power at 2 ohms instead of 4. It does 2400wrms x1 @ 4 ohms at 0.025 THD!!!! 2.5kw at .025 THD is insane.

Speaker and power wire will be done by knukonceptz, RCAs are street wires 5.0s(old school), the deck is a Pio. Premier 940MP. That might be upgraded to the Pioneer 7600 someday. If I do screens, itll probably be Farenheit's 10.4" flip-down. The 7600 and the screen is only an option because my shop carries them and I can get huge discounts. The alarm on it will be clifford or marksman, probably the clifford rsx3.5(remote start...*insert evil laugh*). I'm hoping to have the entire system and alarm in by next march(minus screen and 7600). Thats the goal anyway...
-Cody

swerve

cool cody... how about alternator and all that good stuff?

exalted512

alternator, if itll fit, will be from alterstart. batteries will be from exide's orbital series since thats what the shop carries, and of course a couple bat cap 800s
-Cody

MacLeod

Outstanding! Congratulations bro, glad you finally got a smooth new ride!

Dont do video, if you do before you know it youll be looking for some neon.

When are you gonna start installing stuff?

audiobliss

Man, congrats! Sweet looking truck!! So, you're working at an audio store, eh? Nice. Discounts. Nicer.

You gonna compete any with this set-up? You gonna lift this 'un, too?

exalted512

Well until I get all my amps heres the plan.

first off, the iridiums are getting put into stock door locations minus the midrange. Theyll be running off of either a 550S or the tu300 depending on how soon i get the tu300. Hopefully I'll have the tu pretty quick. Ill be running one brahma in a ported box(just set on top of my seat) with a 550S on each voicecoil. gain matched of course. i figure that should be just as loud as my old set up with 2 12s and a 550S on each. next step is put all the liquid deadener in. Basically my truck will be totally stripped except for the driver seat and possibly the front door panels...thats only because the dome light might stay on if theyre not on. thats all kind of sketchy as of now because i might just leave everything factory besides the radio until i get the liquid done. I also want to get some sound deadener and throw it in
-Cody

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thank god ita a 2 wheel drive... (height of front fenders gives it away). i'm utterly sick of 4x4's ... why ? i dunno... just am.

the 2 wheel drive revolution gains another brother in arms.

be careful with all that sound deadener - too much and the panels wont go back on.

MacLeod

Yeah, Im kinda 4x2 kinda guy myself as well. Maybe its just because I could only afford a 4x2 and am coming up with excuses to make myself feel better but I would never have taken a 25', $28,000 truck off road and we dont have weather bad enough here to ever need it so I wouldve just had about 1000 pounds of extra weight for nothing.

Cody, you going to keep the speaker placement the same as in your old truck?

exalted512

all the sound deadener thats going on the metal is liquid so it wont be that thick. Ill have a single layer of rattle pad on the panels:
http://secondskinaudio.com/products/products_detail.php?productid=4
between the deadener and the carpet on the floor, ill have this stuff:
http://secondskinaudio.com/products/products_detail.php?productid=7
and im thinking about getting this for under the hood, but i might not-im not totally sure:
http://secondskinaudio.com/products/products_detail.php?productid=5

and i was wanting a 4x4...but that didnt go through.
-Cody

1996blackmax

Congrats on the nice truck .

MacLeod wrote:

Dont do video, if you do before you know it youll be looking for some neon.

Just wait till you have kids my friend . When you get asked many times are we almost there daddy, and you still have 440 miles to go out of a 500 mile trip it can get to you . I went on a long trip with the family a little after installing the monitors in my car. My wife and I both said, we should have done this a long time ago.

CrBoy

Nice ride... Congrats!!!!

audiobliss

Man...not 4-wheel drive...that stinks. Not 4.8....ouch. Oh well. Still looks nice. And sure will sound nice.

REPEAT: Are you going to compete at all with it?

MacLeod

Ouch? That 4.8 aint no slouch! What is it, 270 horsepower now? That aint nothing to sneeze at. My beloved Dodge has the 4.7 with 240 horsepower and while it wont get sideways, its got more than adequate power.

exalted512

285HP actually, the 5.3L only has 10 more HP, but the torque is different by about 40 lbs/in^2

and i do plan on competing...both in sq and spl. theres not everyday when you can find a sq competitor that can pull a few fuses, make a few gain adjustments and be ready for spl:D
-Cody

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4.7 grocery getter... *vomit* i hate that chrysler engine. bring back the 318 and the 360 and then we'll talk. i'm utterly disappointed in chrysler's new engines save the 5.7 and 6.1 litre.

dakotaboy

ahhh the good old days, the 5.9 360 rams and dakota r/t's... anyways congrats cody. Nice truck

exalted512

this truck will have more than a few mods to it besides the audio, it will be much faster than a stock 5.3...much faster
-Cody

MacLeod

PoweredByDodge wrote:

4.7 grocery getter... *vomit* i hate that chrysler engine. bring back the 318 and the 360 and then we'll talk. i'm utterly disappointed in chrysler's new engines save the 5.7 and 6.1 litre.

Not even close! I drove a 2000 Ram regular cab with the 318 for 2 years and have now been driving this 02 Quad Cab with the 4.7 for nearly 3 and there is no comparison between the 4.7 and 5.2.

The 4.7 is more powerful, much MUCH smoother and gets better gas mileage. My 02 is over 1000 pounds heavier than my 00 yet its faster, gets the same, sometimes better gas mileage and has more torque.

The 4.7 is a great engine and is far superior to the 5.2.

audiobliss

exalted512 wrote:

this truck will have more than a few mods to it besides the audio, it will be much faster than a stock 5.3...much faster
-Cody

Oooh, awesome. What exactly are you looking at doing? (This is MUCH more interesting than audio...lol.)

My dad's 2001 Suburban has the 5.3 in it. It's purdy peppy. I mean, not fast by any means but, considering, purdy peppy.

exalted512

not sure, all the research ive done for the past few months was for off-roading stuff for a 4x4. the only performance part i know for sure is a borla exhaust
-Cody

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cody - check out summitracing.com - their "summit brand" exhaust systems are all aluminum steel and will flow about as good as a borla, and the sound is quite good - it's not a dynomax or borla sound, but its damn good, and the price is only about 150 for all the prebent mandrel pipe, hangers, and the muffler (runs duals). i've done 3 of these so far with very pleased results.

macleod - it'll take a long time for the 4.7 to overcome the 40 year legend that is the 273/318/340/360/viper v10.

exalted512

ill have to look into it, i might just go with that because its $500+ cheaper than borla...lol. ill have to see
-Cody

MacLeod

PoweredByDodge wrote:

macleod - it'll take a long time for the 4.7 to overcome the 40 year legend that is the 273/318/340/360/viper v10.

Agreed. The 318 and 360 were bulletproof engines and very tourquey. Still, I think the 4.7 and 5.7 are superior performing engines.

PoweredByDodge

5.7's a different animal... 5.7 and 6.1 are their own family - 3.7 and 4.7 are their own family as well.

i've got the 3.7 and have no complaints - YET. we shall see.

I just don't like - in general - displacement of small block v8's dropping like it has been. they're making smaller and smaller displacement v8's that are revving higher and higher to produce the same power. their going with dual overhead cam's - which i am strongly opposed to. these motors are built in such a manner than they wouldn't even run on anything except MPFI. put a carbed intake on them and they'll choke to death. albeit, formula 1 has been building 1,000 horsepower or higher engines that are V10's and V12's but are only like 3.0 litres. this isn't formula 1 though, and i don't trust automakers. 9 times out of 10, the idea gets built full production before they even think of what the drawbacks might be. i'm intentionally beating the **** out of my engine to see what happens. i've still got warranty - no dealers that'll take me in their service bays, but warranty.

MacLeod

I hear ya, but I believe theyre making smaller engines because they can get the same horsepower out of a smaller engine than a larger, older one. Mine is a 283 yet is as powerful and torquey as the 318 but by being smaller it gets a little better gas mileage. Also, the power and torque bands are pretty close to the 318's (cant speak to other engines) with them both peaking hp and torque a little over 3000.

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small engines = smaller pistons = less moving mass + less surface area for friction = less friction to power output ratio. friction = power loss and heat... so the motors run a little cooler and with the same power.

that's all fine and well - i'm just looking at the flip side ... use modern technology to build the same displacement motor with all the new benefits and instead of getting better gas mileage and same power with smaller engine - get more power, same gas mileage, same size engine.

its my backwards thinking

exalted512

i should be getting it manana:D
-Cody

MacLeod

One big negative to all this new fangled engine thing is less reliability. This 4.7 is the first engine Ive ever owned that I cant change the spark plugs. In fact, Im not even sure where theyre at!!

That plain old 318 was nice and simple and as reliable as a crowbar with nearly as many moving parts.

If I were to keep this truck a long time and the engine finally gave up the ghost, Id more than likely replace it with a 360 crate motor from Chrysler. One of my alltime favorite engines. Tons of torque, bulletproof reliabiltiy and can be built to either run 0-60 in 5 seconds or tow a 10,000 pound boat trailer.

audiobliss

PoweredByDodge wrote:

get more power, same gas mileage, same size engine.

its my backwards thinking

I like your thinking!!!

hellohello

its all about the gas mileage! i can go 26 miles to the gallon... at 30 miles an hour max :-P

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Mac,

your spark plugs are underneath the air cleaner box.

each plug has its own "coil" on it - no more spark plug wires... just baby coils on top of each spark plug, pull the coil up and voila, there's the plugs.

they go THROUGH the intake manifold straight down into the motor.

so pick the big air intake box that says "4.7L magnum" off the top of the motor, detach it from the throttle body and put it aside.

then you'll see 8 greyish/black round things with little 20 gauge wires coming out of each one. each is held down by a little retainer bolt... unscrew the bolt and pull the coil up and you'll see the plug. you'll need a deep socket with a 6 to 12 inch ratchet extention.

now, if you dont have a socket with the rubber inside for pulling plugs, then you can use a regular socket, unscrew the plug, and then use one of those springy snake grabber things to stick in the hole and grab the plug... but its infinite easier if you just buy the socket from craftsman or home depot with the rubber inside so it'll hold the plug when u pull it out.

it took me about 2 hours total to change 6 plugs, includes removing air box, doing it all up, and putting it back together and then starting it to test it. it's quicker once u've done it a few times.