SR6500 White paper

Thom
Thom Posts: 723
edited August 2006 in Car Audio & Electronics
Here it is:

http://www.polkaudio.com/downloads/whitepapers/sr6500.pdf

And high res:

http://www.polkaudio.com/downloads/whitepapers/sr6500_large.pdf



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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited August 2005
    very tasty reading...
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Excellent. All I know tho is theyre the best speakers on the market right now. That tweeter is unreal.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited August 2005
    That's it MAN, STOP with all of this!


    :)

    At a later time, I know what too look for. For now I will stick with what I have :(.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2005
    Sweet!!! Tell all involved in the white paper "THANKS!"
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    1996blackmax wrote:
    That's it MAN, STOP with all of this!


    :)

    At a later time, I know what too look for. For now I will stick with what I have :(.


    You know you want em! You know you want to go to Tweeter and listen to them. Theyre calling for you.....
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    You know you want em! You know you want to go to Tweeter and listen to them. Theyre calling for you.....

    pure junk. a complete travesty. but if you think the sound of a **** hitting a brick wall is the definition of "thump", then you might like them. no upgrade for me, no sir.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    These are so sweet that I had to install a wet nap dispensor in my console. Clearest, cleanest speakers on the market. Mmmmmm.....

    Youve already got those unbelievably awesome RTi8's, now you need something just as kick **** in your ride.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2005
    If I didn't have 6' tall stack of black and red boxes I would. :(
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Well, thats ok then! The SR's come in an all black box! You can start a new stack. :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,528
    edited August 2005
    The design behind the Ring Radiator tweeter is beyond cool...

    But I'm kind of a sucker for hard metal domes...

    The SR series looks SWEET, I am looking forwards to seeing some subs and stuff ya know? hehe
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Yeah, I cant wait for the subs to come out!!

    Ive always been a silk tweeter type of guy. The accuracy of metal is cool but for heavy metal, silk is a lot easier on the ears.

    These are the best tweeters Ive ever heard though. Even firing into a massive windshield, these are smooth as a babies butt!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,528
    edited August 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Yeah, I cant wait for the subs to come out!!

    Ive always been a silk tweeter type of guy. The accuracy of metal is cool but for heavy metal, silk is a lot easier on the ears.

    These are the best tweeters Ive ever heard though. Even firing into a massive windshield, these are smooth as a babies butt!

    Yeah, I mostly look for detail - but I find you can calm a metal dome down if you put some effort into it, although I imagine it is easier in a house than a car... lol

    my system is on the bright side, and can be ear bleeding bright with the wrong recording material (rare) - but when you put something good on... woo... just melt!

    Have you listening to the LSi series? Thats what that tweeter was based off of, that Vifa the LSi series uses... - as was the Midbass I imagine...
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Oh yeah. I go to Tweeter at least once a month and listen to everything. Thats where I fell in love with the RTi12's!!

    I guess its all the glass in a car (especially the endless glass in my truck) that makes metal tweet's not my favorite. In a house it would probably be ideal.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,528
    edited August 2005
    Awesome...

    I have been to Tweeter one or two times, I can't stand their demo rooms so I don't go to often. However, they had the LSi15 in a room of its own, and I was fairly impressed. Atleast for running on a receiver...

    It definetely had potential...

    I need to check out the SR series.

    Metal domes can be bright in any enviorment... lol... it just is a matter if you want to mess with them to get them to your liking...
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited August 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    You know you want em! You know you want to go to Tweeter and listen to them. Theyre calling for you.....


    There you go. STOP IT :mad: . j/k :D

    I guess I will go down and take a listen. I will bring my wife though to keep me in line :) .

    PolkThugh wrote:
    pure junk. a complete travesty. but if you think the sound of a **** hitting a brick wall is the definition of "thump", then you might like them. no upgrade for me, no sir.

    I will just have to keep going back to your posts for the time being. Thanks :D .
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,804
    edited August 2005
    Has anybody actually read from front to back this white paper? I printed it out and left it sitting on my desk at work. I was gone to meetings for a short while and when I got back, there were 4 guys standing at my desk thumbing through the white paper that I printed out. Some were oooing and ahhhing at the specs and one was claiming that the system posted better numbers than his Infinity and NHT speakers in his home theater.

    These are defintly impressive speakers and given the specs these have got to be one of the best sets of drivers I have ever seen available for a car. Even if you pay the MSRP of $750, you are getting a bargain because there are speaker systems out there that cost 3-4 times as much that don't have frequency response curves as flat as these do. The specs don't mean everything and installation has alot to do with it but if specs are a guage of anything, they do show how the physical properties of the speakers match other competitors. Looking at that aspect, it shows that favor is leaning towards the Polk Audio side in many possible comparisons.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    I have a feeling Polk is going to make their presence known in the high end market.

    I love these things more and more everyday. Ive owned several different speakers and have listened exstensively to a lot of others ranging from Focal, MBQ, a/d/s and Diamond and I wouldnt take any of them over my SR's.

    Im really hoping they come out with a matching series of sub's. Theyve targeted Quart and Focal and outdid them, I cant wait til they get JL Audio and Adire in their crosshairs!
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited August 2005
    oh now that is beautiful ****.

    i paged through that, and i have to say, that is by far, the best data sheet i've seen on a component speaker, overall, to date. drivers are flat throughout and even a bit past their crossover points, frequency range is SICK, well beyond what is audible to the ear, power handling is excellent, and the crossover design is TOP OF THE LINE. provision for bi-amping built in is an AWESOME addition, whether it's used or not, it's there, and that's what matters. the quality of the crossover construction is just plain sick.

    you get what you pay for - 9 bills for that system is acceptable to me - i dont have 9 bills, but i'll never call them over priced.

    VERY GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!! VERY!
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited August 2005
    ooh! me! i read the whole thing! and loved every second of it, some of that stuff is just way too cool...
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2005
    PoweredByDodge wrote:
    provision for bi-amping built in is an AWESOME addition, whether it's used or not, it's there, and that's what matters.

    The Polk MMC component crossovers are built for this also.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    But the MM crossover were not.

    Most companies are going to biampable crossover now and Im glad. It seems to be catching on and Im glad. Ive been a big advocate of it for a couple years now.

    Focal seems to be lagging behind tho, all their x-overs are still single inputs only, but whadya expect, theyre French!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Mine are breaking in nicely and are literally sounding better every day. One of my **** about them was the lack of midbass, well thats gone now. Its coming along nicely. My bass has been pulled up front quite a bit and drum rolls across the toms are sounding punchier and more solid than they EVER did with my beloved MM6's!

    Another testimony on detail. During a brief drum fill on Fates Warning's CD "X", you could actually hear the snare rattling from the vibrations of the toms!! Unreal!

    Yo Bliss! I noticed you were asking when I got my SR's and about install pics. Here is the thread I posted all that in.
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  • Thom
    Thom Posts: 723
    edited August 2005
    Back on track...
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2005
    MacLeod wrote:
    Yo Bliss! I noticed you were asking when I got my SR's and about install pics. Here is the thread I posted all that in.

    Ahh, I thought you had overlooked it. Thanks!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2005
    Man, now that these are pretty much broken in they are moving some serious air! My entire door is vibrating now on good bass hits. My MM6's, MMC690s and Infinity 6x9s never came close to this kind of output! Dont get me wrong, youll still need a sub but these things make a dedicated midbass pretty much obsolete!
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited August 2005
    Sweet. Polk rules, once again!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Thought Id share some more impressions of my beloved SR's.

    I have discovered these arent made for getting super loud. Dont get me wrong, these are plenty capable of cranking out some db's and are still the best sounding speakers on the market only they cant quite handle as much juice as the Momos (which would explain their 120 watt rating compared to the MM6 150 watts...duh)

    I cranked up Pink Floyds "Hey You" which has some mucho punchy bass in it and at a pretty stout volume they bottomed out and pretty loud too. Scared me to death! I had them high passed at 70 Hz so I quickly bumped that up to 100 Hz and it seemed to work just fine.

    However it had an interesting side effect. I was pissed cause now I had to bump my sub up to 100 Hz to compensate and thought it was going to be all boomy and sound like crap. It didnt. It actually sounds pretty good. I had to turn the sub level down a bit on my h/u to blend in with the front stage so I lost some of the punch but the extra 30 Hz is blending in quite nicely with my fronts and has really thickened up the SQ.

    So far Ive only listened to one CD like this (Savatage - The Wake of Magellan) so I may change my mind after listening to some others but for now 100 Hz is working out just right.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited September 2005
    SAVATAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the siberian something something orchestra .... SAVATAGE!!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    Trans Siberean Orchestra. They only do that for Christmas though. Even performed on CNN once. That was a hoot!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited September 2005
    OK, I dont like it. Way too much bass. I had Neo listen to it and while we were I was gritting my teeth. Way too much boominess (not to mention that gawddamned 40 acre windshield **** up the tweets).

    Also, at the Polkfest, we got to listen to some outstanding speakers including the SR's properly mounted and I heard how theyre really supposed to sound.

    So when I got home I re-set all my gains. Basically my Crossfire amps is WAY too much power for these. In order to keep them from bottoming out at loud volumes my mid's gain is not much higher than zero with the tweets virtually at zero. I may need to invest in a smaller amp.

    I also high passed them at about 60 Hz and dropped my sub down to 60. It is no longer boomy and sounds about right. I also have no bottoming out on any tracks at high volume (28 out of 35) so thats set.

    Neo, youre going to have to drive down to Chattanooga so you can listen to it again! Itll be better this time! :D
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