Aaron, Dean.......Klipsch!!

mantis

OK,
Klipsch makes a nice speaker for the people who can sit there and not get fatigued from the over welming high's the strong bass and no mid range.These speaker's give me a headache.I have Installed Klipsch's whole line even all the new one's.The new reference line wired with monstercable does indeed sound better than there older model's.They still don't image,and I agree with Aaron on the hollow thing.No depth .All in your face.They are clear sounding speaker's, not really muddy,slightly but not that bad.I would however own Klipsch inwalls, they sound real good for theater,they have this nice little -3db cut for the high's and it makes a big difference.
I can't say this enough, Klipsch,Polk and every other speaker on the planet has a home.Is it your's??maybe.
Dean likes his speaker's and has every right 2.But not everybodies going to agree with him.But that's fine because when he sit's infront of his RF-7's(thats the model he has right,I don't remember now)and open's his favorite beer,but's his feet on the otoman and get's comfortable, he is in his own little world, loving how his system sound''s that he sweated,bled for countlees hours of testing to find the right peices to go with his Klipsch.I can respect that.But that doesn't mean I'm goona praise Klipsch.I won't own any model made today and thing's past(except those inwalls)But thats just me.
Dan

matthew_2

I think you should clean the **** out of your ears!

Klipsch is for people who like music. I am getting RF3II's sunday. I tried them out yesterday, and I was surprised on how much warmer these sounded with a nicer amp! Big dif.

Now you like polk, and thats fine. But I heard the new 800's the other day, and they were horrible. Bose sounded better! (601's I think) The polks were distorting, and had NO bass. NO mids, and the highs were harsh. They couldn't play loud either!

I remember a post like this a little while ago. "dean, klipsch, helppppppppp." err, something like that. I replied with my view on speakers, and I won't repete it here again.

I would rather have deans RF7's then a whole room of polks!

Klipsch is not only about loudness and bass. Klipsch has mids highs AND bass.
Klipsch also images great.

Aaron

Wow, what a compelling argument (especially with the Bose reference). I'm sold on Klipsch now. Thanks. NOT!

Aaron

RuSsMaN

Who cares about bashing this or that, unless its 'bose' of course....

Obviously Klipsch and Polk both manufacter great speakers, depending on your PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

I don't think one can really compare them to each other, the Klipsch sound is different than Polk, some love it, some hate it....

Cheers,
Russ

Aaron

Russ, you're absolutely right. What I don't understand is how someone can like both Polk and Klipsch. They sound completely different. I realize that everyone hears things differently, but you'd think they would prefer one over the other.

Aaron

shack

Lets see........

First we had zandern join our little group on 3-10 and he added some really insightfull and valuable information for the group such as:

First of all I must say, YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND IMMATURE

and

First of all, you people are stupid. There is no hollow sound at all about Klipsch.

He must really like firsts.



Then matthew_2 graced us with his presence on 3-12 and informed us that:

I think you should clean the **** out of your ears!

and

The above was not intended to everyone, just a bunch of cone popping ignorant f***s

What I have learned is that just because you can afford some nice Klipschs doesn't mean that you have any class or intelligence.

fabian1

I must admit I am not a fan of any horn tweeter speakers, they look ugly and belong at concerts, saying that I must admit I also find them a little tinny up the top, aside of that I still cannot figure how/why Bose charge so much money for their outright crap they dish out to the public, they are a disgrace END OF STORY, Regards Fabian

flason

You really can like both Polk and Klipsch at the same time, or at least I can. My 2 favorite sets of speakers I own are Polk SDA-1C's and Klipsch Cornwalls. When powered by the same source (Parasound 2205AT) the sound is closer than you think, again to me. The SDA feature is cool because the soundstage widens and you can even pinpoint a sound 10 feet away from the speaker. The Klipsch are cool because you really feel like you're at a concert watching live music. IMO, No studio beats that live sound. Well, thats my opinion. But my dad can still beat-up your dad!

TroyD

It's a pretty well known fact that either you like the horn or you don't........What REALLY gets me is the folks that come on a Polk forum who think that they, without any compelling arguments other than "clean the **** out of your ears" or "you are stupid and immature", are going to sway folks into their frame of mind. Dean has credibility, in my book, but these other jo-jo's.......man.....

I will say that the new Klipsch sound much better than the old ones.


Zandern and Matthew can go on back to the Klipsch forum (I know they post on there) and play billy bad-**** over there. They sure told us punks. Of course a hundred bucks says they both still live with Mommy and Daddy. There are folks on both forums that were digging audio gear when these two jo-jo's were crapping in diapers and wiping it on the walls.

Troy

shack

What REALLY gets me is the folks that come on a Polk forum who think that they, without any compelling arguments other than "clean the **** out of your ears" or "you are stupid and immature", are going to sway folks into their frame of mind.

I don't for one minute believe that these individuals are coming here to try and change our mind. As you said, dean/klipschead has brought forth good information and may have caused someone to go and listen to some Klipsch speakers (he probably didn't change their mind ). The others are just here to stir things up IMHO.

jcaut

I agree with Troy.


I'm sorry to bring up the whole "Club Polk is a password protected site exclusively for Polk owners.." thing again, but I'm beginning to think that this needs to be addressed. It seems like we're getting quite a few "members" who are on here illegally. If the people have something to contribute (beyond telling us that we're stupid, or whatever) then that's fine. Dean has contributed much to this site, and I'm glad to have him here whether he likes Polk, or Klipsch or Bose or Radio Shack.

But some of these others who obviously don't own Polk speakers but found out they CAN get on this site--and apparently are just here to argue-- need to be booted.

Word must have gotten around on the Klipsch forum about what a cool forum we have over here.:D

Jason

Ron-P

I am gonna Polk some Klipsch tonight. :eek:


Peace Out~:D

matthew_2

Well, then I'd like to say sorry for some of my comments I have made. I like being intelligent when I can, but I love Klipsch, and when others say klipsch is garbage, it bothers me. When they say they don't like the sound, well I respect that.

I never came here to change anyones mind. I think audio is cool, and every person into it should be proud of their system. And they should not insult others. (or their systems)

I think this forum, (along with lots of other forums) should have their members be less competitive. Anyways, this is the opinions page. Any peoples opinions (on the most part) should be respected.

An audio forum is there for people like us, to discuss audio, (I don't have lot's of experience yet) and our systems.

I'll try to watch what I say next time I'm here posting something. I love klipsch. Polk is also a quality product. Just because you have one, doesn't mean everything else is garbage, or you need to put it down.

Anyone who takes the time out of their day to go to a forum like this, audio must be important to them. When you insult their speakers, it's allmost like you are insulting them.

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You should of seen the things said to me when I told people I owned a nuance sub! It was all fun and games, but still. Hard to tell someones tone on the screen.

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How someone spend their money is totaly up to them. I'll buy klipsch, and you will buy polk. I would still buy polk, but klipsch is first on my list.

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Troy, I do live with Mommy and Daddy. I can spend all my money on audio that way! (and I'm not old enough to move)

So everyone, enjoy your polk, and I'll enjoy my klipsch. Im not going to STOP coming here. Mabey there will be questions I can answer!

Thanks,

Matthew

TroyD

Thanks for being man enough to apologize. If you want to BS or talk about audio gear here, that is cool and we will welcome you with open arms. However, comma, if you come in here with guns blazing saying for instance that Klipsch is for folks who like music and comparing the RT800's to Bose, well, you aren't going to be welcomed by many.

As I said over on the Klipsch forum, we don't go over there bombing on you guys, extended us the same courtesy.

There is nothing wrong with being young and living at home but a little courtesy and respect goes a LONG way.

Troy

fabian1

Troy, you took the words right out of my mouth, VERY WELL SAID. kind Regards Fabian

joe6pak

Stupid and Immature! Damn, that sounds like my wife! She is half right, some of the time. Well as a registered member of both Polk & Klipsch boards, let me say a few words here. Zandern & Matthew2 are not representative of the majority of the Klipsch members. Sure the others will argue with you about speaker choice, but they USUALLY do not resort to name calling or threats of violence. Dean is a good poster with a lot of knowledge concerning this hobby. Don't run him off. I would suggest that you guys check out the K board from time to time. There is a lot to learn over there, just as there is a lot to learn here.
I prefer the let anyone participate type of board as opposed to the owner only rule, but there are merits to both ways of doing it. The K board gets its share of trolls, but they are quickly put down & then ignored. I feel that by limiting to owners only, more good people are shut out than badguys.
I own some very nice Polk car speakers & a NHT home theater speaker system, no Klipsch or Polks in the house, yet.
joe

matthew_2

Thanks Troy. Polk and klipsch forums are good.

I think the 800i sounded so bad because the amp was old? (old HK)The bose really did sound a little better in the highs,(not good, just better) but it was probibly connections. The bass on the bose was funny. Like a low freq' siren. SLOW and MUDDY.

I have heard polk before, and liked it. I wanted some polk rt55i 's? Think thats what they were. Now I am getting RF3 II's, and couldn't be happier!

They are going into a small room to! (like 12x14) + the bed, and some other stuff. (TV stand ect.) It should be awsome.

Will the LSI series be at places like future shop? (chain stores)

matthew_2

oops, double post.

TroyD

Thanks mate! How goes the rehab???

Joe,

I visit the Klipsch board and have posted a few times (mostly to defend our good name and honor) .....You are absolutely right, it is a pretty good bunch over there. Not at all unlike the crowd over here. There are a LOT of tube guys over there, a very knowledgeable and amiable bunch....

As far as the forum participation, I can see that both ways to be honest.......mine is not to ask why though.



Troy

Ron-P

You are absolutely right, it is a pretty good bunch over there. Not at all unlike the crowd over here.

Hey, dammit. I resemble that remark. You wanna step outside Troy and deal with this Polkman to Polkman? Huh...you polkpunks are all alike.


Peace Out~:D

joe6pak

Matthew
Very nice apology. Thoughtful And Classy. See what happens when you think before you type. I was making my post when you posted your apology so I did not see it before I wrote what I did about you. With your new, more refined attitude towards all this, I will say that you will be a good representive of any board. I also believe you will be welcome to post most anywhere. You can learn a lot in these places.

Troy.
Yes I have seen some of your posts over there. Your most civil. You are right. They have some real tube wizards. Those guys tweak and modify those tubes and old Klipsch speakers so much that I can't keep up with what they are saying. They remind me of a bunch of drag racers trying to get that next 1/1000 of a second off the old et. Sure would like to hear some of that stuff.
joe

TroyD

Ron,

Bring that **** on man, and bring a case of Steelhead while you are at it brotha

Joe,

Thanks, I too would like to hear some of that tube gear and a pair of Khorns....I don't know that I would ever be that much of a fanatic about tweaking but it makes for interesting reading.

Rodney King

dean/klipschead

I don't expect anyone here to praise Klipsch or run out and buy them. I only expect people to have fun and be a little open minded.

I've never heard a Klipsch speaker with less than perfect setup and excellent front end equipment sound good. The speakers are brutal at exposing the inadequacies of source and front end gear.

The clarity comes with a price.

I strongly disagree with your comments that say:

1) Left/Right only, with no image? Horns need to be toed in quite a bit. Most people set them up like other speakers which does not work. There strength is controlled directivity. No side wall reflections and very precise lateral imaging. No lateral image occurs when they are not toed in properly. As a matter of fact, other Polkies, including Aaron have commented on their strong center image ability. I've addressed the 'hollow' bit in another post and won't go into it here.

2) No depth? They need to be 3 feet off the back walls and then the speakers completely disappear. I have considerable front to back image. I have no idea what you are talking about. You think a horn fills a movie theater with sound because there is no depth?

3) Overwhelming Highs? Get a good amp and preamp, preferrably tubes, and turn it down a little.

3) No midrange? This comment is so completely nonsensical and devoid of any fact as demonstrated by real life speaker meausurements I refuse to comment.

I am quite sure if you heard my system you would be eating crow -- big time.

dean/klipschead

This post is the first post from the thread titled 'For All Polk Listeners'. I moved it here to this thread where it belongs. I shouldn't have started a new thread. I didn't realize many would see it -- and not knowing the context -- would view it as a 'bash'.


Matthew suggests you all clean the **** out of your ears. If you feel like you have this problem -- below is a product that will help you get the **** out. The product can be effectively applied to any part of the body where **** happens.