New Reciever

jeremie
jeremie Posts: 246
edited July 2005 in Electronics
Since my Onkyo 787 died i am looking at replacing it. I wont be using it a whole lot since i watch movies in my theater about once a month if i am lucky so what do you guys recommend to run the following
Fronts RT55i
Center CS400i
Rears RT55i
Rcenter CS245i

I was looking at the Onkyo 602 but what else do you recommend? Denon or Yamaha?
Receiver Yamaha 3070 *Emotiva xpa5 * Behringer iNuke 6000dsp *Monster Cable HTS 3500 -- line conditioner * Panamax 5300 * Apple 4K * Panasonic UB820 * JVC NX5 * Silver Ticket thin bezel 120”
LSIM - Fronts 707 * Center 706c * Sides 702 * Rear 703 *FP RC85i * RP RC65i * Sub (2) SI HT18
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited June 2005
    I recommend you watch more movies! :D

    I think that would be fine, I love my onkyo sr 502. That recently released the 503 so you can find 502s for 200 and less now. I have no idea but maybe they'll release a 603 and 602 will drop, it's a long shot though. The 602 doesn't have any preouts which is something that I wish I mine has, but my situation does'nt require it.

    Depending on how loud and or how much "more" quality you want from your speakers I do'nt think you'll have a problem with that receiver, especially for once a month use.

    Still learning though, put my recommendation on the bottom compared to everyone elses,

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,879
    edited June 2005
    Seems like going from the 787 to the 602 would be a downgrade with reduced amplifier power. I'm not all that familiar with the Onkyo line, but the specs make it look like the 702 would be more along the line of your 787 in terms of amp power.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited June 2005
    You have some very nice speakers there and you should buy a receiver that can power them without risk.

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited June 2005
    I still think that for only one movie a month, the strain on that receiver would be very minimal. Depends on what listening volume you're working at.I looked on the onko website but didn't see that model listed on the prior models so but if it's a "7 series" sorta speak than yes another 7 would put you on that level probably with a few more "modern" upgrades.

    Maybe you can go to a local store and buy the 6 series and see if it cuts it for you, if not return it

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2005
    ...I would get something that has plenty of connections (component, dig coax,etc), video conversion, and especially pre-outs....

    believe me, when that upgrade itch arrives, and it will, having the ability to expand on what you have makes things a lot easier.


    Mike
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by Mike682
    ...I would get something that has plenty of connections (component, dig coax,etc), video conversion, and especially pre-outs....

    believe me, when that upgrade itch arrives, and it will, having the ability to expand on what you have makes things a lot easier.


    Mike

    And less costly, in the long run.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2005
    Also, if you are considering a Yamaha or Pioneer (1014 or 1015tx), Best Buy has a 30% open box items coupon at their site.....I went to check out the open box inventory at a local BB and they had:

    Pioneer 1014tx: $169 ($319 new on clearance) open box, only missing remote
    Yamaha 5790: $219 ($499 on clearance) open box, only missing remote

    Definately shop around...you will be surprised at what you can get for an excellent price..

    If you like Onkyo, and HK take a run to CC and check out their open box deals.

    Mike
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2005
    I have a similar 5.1 setup with RT55is, CS400i and RT15is. I use a Denon 1802 AVR and have found it mates with the Polk RTxxi speakers very well. I tried HK and didn't care for it and have been unimpressed with recent Onkyo offerings. These speakers are easy to push so a mid-level Denon like a AVR 1804 (discontinued but can still be found at good prices) or the new 1705 or 1905 would work very well.

    In addition to the 1802 I also have a Denon DRA-685 stereo receiver that sound great with Polk RT and RTxxi speakers.
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  • jeremie
    jeremie Posts: 246
    edited June 2005
    any of you guys have experience with the Pioneer 1015tx? BB has 10% off this weekend.
    Receiver Yamaha 3070 *Emotiva xpa5 * Behringer iNuke 6000dsp *Monster Cable HTS 3500 -- line conditioner * Panamax 5300 * Apple 4K * Panasonic UB820 * JVC NX5 * Silver Ticket thin bezel 120”
    LSIM - Fronts 707 * Center 706c * Sides 702 * Rear 703 *FP RC85i * RP RC65i * Sub (2) SI HT18
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by jeremie
    any of you guys have experience with the Pioneer 1015tx? BB has 10% off this weekend.

    I heard that the 1015tx is a good receiver. I never heard it myself, but heard positive remarks in other forums. Check AVS forum and search the model #..

    The 1014tx, last year's model was a clone of the Elite 52tx (except for brushed aluminum front and a few connections in the back). The internals are pretty much the same between the two.

    The 1015 is this year's model and I believe offers a higher bandwidth conversion compared to the 1014..

    Mike
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • jeremie
    jeremie Posts: 246
    edited June 2005
    Last time i promise Denon 2805 vs Yamaha 1500, yamaha has more power not by much and is 90 bucks cheaper.
    Receiver Yamaha 3070 *Emotiva xpa5 * Behringer iNuke 6000dsp *Monster Cable HTS 3500 -- line conditioner * Panamax 5300 * Apple 4K * Panasonic UB820 * JVC NX5 * Silver Ticket thin bezel 120”
    LSIM - Fronts 707 * Center 706c * Sides 702 * Rear 703 *FP RC85i * RP RC65i * Sub (2) SI HT18
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited June 2005
    I'd look for a used Rotel.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
  • jeremie
    jeremie Posts: 246
    edited June 2005
    Amazing i just Called CC to find out how out of warrenty my reciever was and its under warrenty. Darn i was looking forward to a new reciever. Hope they cant fix it and give me a credit back.
    Receiver Yamaha 3070 *Emotiva xpa5 * Behringer iNuke 6000dsp *Monster Cable HTS 3500 -- line conditioner * Panamax 5300 * Apple 4K * Panasonic UB820 * JVC NX5 * Silver Ticket thin bezel 120”
    LSIM - Fronts 707 * Center 706c * Sides 702 * Rear 703 *FP RC85i * RP RC65i * Sub (2) SI HT18
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by jeremie
    Amazing i just Called CC to find out how out of warrenty my reciever was and its under warrenty. Darn i was looking forward to a new reciever. Hope they cant fix it and give me a credit back.

    Sounds like you bought an ext warranty??

    If so, I think the policy is that if they can't fix it, they will replace your broken receiver with the current equivalent..
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited June 2005
    Thats true. If it is still in the warrenty time frame and not able to be fixed, you get the new model.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    I wonder how he could sabotage the receiver so that they couldn't fix it and still not be able to void his warranty, so he could get a new one.:D :D
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • Cwaters
    Cwaters Posts: 16
    edited June 2005
    The right application of voltage in the right location ought to make a sufficent burn spot to make it not worth their while to repair the unit....but you didn't hear it from me...if they ask me I'm like Sargent Shultz over here...

    CW
  • jeremie
    jeremie Posts: 246
    edited June 2005
    While working at CC some years ago and knowing some of the service people just by taking a little 120 to the right boards and claiming lighting will do it everytime. For some reason my reciever smells like something electrical hit the boards. Now i have to wait a week or so to see what they say. The 702 looks pretty nice.
    Receiver Yamaha 3070 *Emotiva xpa5 * Behringer iNuke 6000dsp *Monster Cable HTS 3500 -- line conditioner * Panamax 5300 * Apple 4K * Panasonic UB820 * JVC NX5 * Silver Ticket thin bezel 120”
    LSIM - Fronts 707 * Center 706c * Sides 702 * Rear 703 *FP RC85i * RP RC65i * Sub (2) SI HT18
  • pmckeealaska
    pmckeealaska Posts: 808
    edited June 2005
    Get a NAD and your probelms are forever solved. I have a T763 and love it for both 2 channel and HT. My 2 cents
    Music and Movie Rig

    Samsung 40" HDTV 1080p
    LSi25 Front Speakers
    LSiC Center Channel
    LSiFX Surrounds
    Rotel RB 1080 2-Channel Amp
    NAD T763 Reciever
    Denon DVD 2900 Universal Player

    Audiosource 10 Band Digital Equalizer
    Audioquest CV-8 speaker cables
    Audioquest Sub-X subwoofer cables
    Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects

    Monster AVS 2000 Voltage Stabilizer
    Playstation 3 120GB Slim
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited June 2005
    Jeremie it depends on what your preference of sound is. Do you like warm/neutral sound, neutral/bright sound?

    Your polks have neutral characteristics more or less.

    As far as new receivers go- If you like Warm/Neutral sound- Harman Kardon, Denon, and Marantz are very tough to beat imo. If you like brighter sound, then stick to Onkyo, Yamaha or Pioneer.

    And don't forget if your present receiver has pre-outs- then you could keep it and just buy an amplifier (NAD, Adcom, Rotel, Parasound, Outlaw, whatever) and add to it. That might give you just the improvement you're looking for. =)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited June 2005
    HK baby, HK.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited June 2005
    Originally posted by pmckeealaska
    Get a NAD and your probelms are forever solved. I have a T763 and love it for both 2 channel and HT. My 2 cents

    ^What he said!
  • TheReaper
    TheReaper Posts: 636
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by jeremie
    ... The 702 looks pretty nice.
    I like my Onkyo 702, it has pre-outs, room equalizers, and is 7.1 (or 5.1 + zone 2). I would recommend it over any of the lower numbered Onkyos.
    Win7 Media Center -> Onkyo TXSR702 -> Polk Rti70
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by ND13
    HK baby, HK.

    Alot of people here like the HK but I bought an AVR230 and did not like it at all. The sound quality was very good, but my TV speakers had more volume and the build quality was poor. I pulled my sub cable out and the whole terminal came out with it.
    I could have just got a lemon, but i have cold feet for them now.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by MSALLA
    Alot of people here like the HK but I bought an AVR230 and did not like it at all. The sound quality was very good, but my TV speakers had more volume and the build quality was poor. I pulled my sub cable out and the whole terminal came out with it.
    I could have just got a lemon, but i have cold feet for them now.

    I've owned several HK products over the years and have yet to experience any thing negative, except that they get a little warmer than some of the others. Really it all comes down to the sound he wants to achieve. Like several have pointed out, HK, Marantz and Denon are warm and Pioneer, Yamaha, Sony, and Onkyo are brighter. I have had receivers from all the above at one time or another and they all have their strong points except for the Sony. Sony's audio gear just doesn't do it for me, they have decent video gear, though. The Onkyo actually, IMO, falls in the middle somewhere.

    Good Luck in your endeavor,

    Noel
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by MSALLA
    Alot of people here like the HK but I bought an AVR230 and did not like it at all. The sound quality was very good, but my TV speakers had more volume and the build quality was poor. I pulled my sub cable out and the whole terminal came out with it.
    I could have just got a lemon, but i have cold feet for them now.

    I know what you're talking about with the volume thing. It's not the wattage. I have my 235 hooked up to two adcoms and it's the same. I usually keep mine between -35db and -20db. Sorry to hear about your build quality issues- I love mine. IF you're shy about H/K- I would go with Denon. They're my 2nd choice.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    yup. what ND just said.

    (i'm tired of agreeing with every one of your posts damnit!=)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited July 2005
    Don't overlook the Sony ES stuff though. The regular Sony stuff is crap, and I was quick to jump on the 'Sony is crap' bandwagon - until I heard their ES stuff.

    IMO, their ES stuff is top notch.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by aaharvel
    yup. what ND just said.

    (i'm tired of agreeing with every one of your posts damnit!=)

    Geez, I guess that I'll start liking Pioneer or Sony then.;) :D
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Sony Es IS good.
    I've a terrible habit of putting EVERYTHING sony does into one big lump sum. One big crappy lump sum. Sorry.
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

    "People working at Polk Audio must sit around the office and just laugh their balls off reading many of these comments." -Lush