So I received a package today....

rnp614
rnp614 Posts: 598
edited March 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
and it contained a preamp I bought on audiogon. The outside of the box seemed fine, the packing seemed alright there was foam insert and bubble wrap all around, but the preamp looked like this:
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    forums wont let me attach a file right now AGH


    Well anyways the preamp has a bunch of circle marks that are like some white residue. When wiped with a damp towel it makes the towel black. The marks come off but reappear. in addition the Knobs lost paint or something. I think the bubble wrap the guy used had something on it!

    WTF do I do?! (will post picture when I can)
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    maybe this time the pic will work
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited April 2005
    It seems obvious by the pic, maybe he applied something tp cover marks/scratches and now you are removeing it.. shoe polish? sorta like the sharpie for edge knicks only in a terrible manor and unknown to you.. I would e-mail asap and ask what the heck is on it.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2005
    Oh man, that just ain't right. Thats exactly what happened, or there was some sort of reaction to the bubble wrap--but not likely.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    I have yet to see a chemical reaction caused by bubble wrap....c'mon now.

    That looks like prior damage....better get things started.

    Link the original ad from Audiogon, so that we may see.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2005
    that is really strange.. yeah that seller has some splainin' to do on this one. I wanna know what they heck he did to it. He better not claim that that damage happen in transit.
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  • brettw-a-noob
    brettw-a-noob Posts: 4
    edited April 2005
    I would guess that he put it up for sale, cleaned it with a nice shiny oil to make it look all nice and clean, wrapped it in bubble wrap and then shipped it out as soon as it was paid for.......
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited April 2005
    Yup, kinda looks like a well oiled machine. To help cover up severe corrosion that is. The bubble wrap marks will be around for a long time on that surface.

    Another interest of mine is collecting antique, hammer, double barrel shotguns. I had one shipped to me once that came with the (non-corroded) barrels well oiled (a good thing) and wrapped in bubble wrap. Could've done without that part I guess. It took repeated oiling and rubbing with a cloth over a couple of months time to get rid of the bubble imprints on the steel.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by dorokusai
    I have yet to see a chemical reaction caused by bubble wrap....c'mon now.


    I'll bet you don't ship 4.5 to 6.5 million dollars in computer/network/tools/test equipment per year...it can and does react to some surfaces; rare, yes, but it does happen. That's why I said "but not likely" above.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    well I sent him the pic and asked him what we're going to do about this ****. I'm rather pissed off...those of you that responded to my ebay add that local pickup went without a hitch. The guy won the auction for 103.50 but paid me 125 for allowing quick pickup.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    Oh, and i plugged it in just to see if it would power on and it does...at least it has a chance of working. :(
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2005
    Actually Steve, I ship at least that much in Telecom equipment every 6 months at least....and my observation was simply based on MY experience.

    Sorry that you've had ruined equipment Mr. Computer.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    Okay, so everything but the knobs seems like its okay. (btw those who asked, the listing has been removed from audiogon because this transaction started long ago, but his user name is chryslerjay) Whats the best way to clean this off. After I wipe it, the white-ish **** seems to come back! I tried a simple all purpose cleaner, that pulls off the **** better but the smear comes back!
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    and just in case this guy doesnt get back to me (i emailed him immediately with that pic asking WTF), what would you guys recommend for cleaning whatever this gunk is?
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited April 2005
    If it was me, I'd try a small amount of Meguiars Cleaner Wax. Its good at getting oily things off car paint. Just work a dab in, let it dry, then buff off.

    Or maybe Goo Gone.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited April 2005
    It's hard for me to tell from your pic, but it looks like mildew damage that he has tried to cover up. Can you post a better pic? If you get no response from the seller, contact Audiogon. They will actually do something to help you unlike ePay.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    :eek:
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    :confused:
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    :(:o
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    If it was me, I'd try a small amount of Meguiars Cleaner Wax. Its good at getting oily things off car paint. Just work a dab in, let it dry, then buff off.

    Or maybe Goo Gone.

    Where would I get either of those?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited April 2005
    Yep, sure looks like mildew. There is no way to remove mildew damage from anodized aluminum and in fact you shouldn't try to clean it anymore than you have. Instead, you should return it for a full refund including shipping charges both ways.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    Hopefully he responds to one of 5 emails and 2 pictures I sent to him without being a dick about the situation.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2005
    you couldnt even polish it off?
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    i JUST got it today and I have no polish, all I have is all-purpose cleaner.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2005
    if the seller doesnt respond and you end up getting stuck with it, take off a knob and try some metal polish on it....that way if it doesnt work or makes things worse its only one knob...and i dont think it can get much worse then that
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited April 2005
    Nope, you can not polish it off as the mildew has caused a chemical reaction with the metal. Do not mess with the piece and DO NOT tell the seller or Audiogon that you tried to clean it. The seller could then say that YOU caused the damage.
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  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited April 2005
    If it's oil based marks they'll come off eventually. Mildew is another deal. I can't tell by the pics.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    I had already sent him the pic of the paper towel and the bottom of the unit...uh oh. I didnt say that I "cleaned" it in the email. :eek:
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  • Spawndn72
    Spawndn72 Posts: 453
    edited April 2005
    Just say you were wiping it down.
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  • rnp614
    rnp614 Posts: 598
    edited April 2005
    exactly...i mean you see gunk on your **** and first instinct is to wipe it off.
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