LSi's for your car...

Airplay355

i wish i was a **** in the ball pit

swerve

Originally posted by RuSsMaN
I'm as happy as a **** in the bouncy balls.

Best one liner i've read//heard all day... that's alot considering i've blessed my ears with endless Jim Norton all day (stand up comedian).

This place is really starting to suck because we can't even come together to discuss something that may attract both worlds. If a setup is SQ or SPL it shouldn't matter at this point. Sure alot and I mean ALOT of people like their cars to be loud...

But In my opinion I think if you have something to show out of your car setup besides DTP tickets or a hearing aid you are only helping the community.

As for the home vs. car music. I have no home setup (it's after i finish my car)... but I will. But home vs. car shouldn't make any difference what so ever in choice of music. If you do it right... it will most likely sound good... If you are doing it for the wrong reason your trunk is rattling and you are thinking (I should turn it up so these nasty whores on the corner can hear my trunk rattle).

I don't think it's the CA people on this site that are the problem... it's the ones who are driving around like they own the goddamn world because they can play a bass cd and make the other guy at the stop light feel it. Big f***ing deal ya know? The sad part is these people don't even know places like this exist? WHY?! Simply because they are too lazy to admit they don't know jack ****, and they may have to actually realize they are WRONG about alot of things.

I'm not trying to come off as an ****... but I've never seen grown people fight over such a little subject.

Good Night,

Adam Most

MacLeod

Eh, ya gotta overlook the two or three over here that like to look down their noses at anybody that isnt as "sophisticated" as they are and would enjoy wasting time in something as juvenile and pointless as car audio. Imagine, actually having to build a box for your subwoofer! Pish! :rolleyes:

95% of the guys over here are cool so having to endure some drivel now and then is worth it.

brettw22

I don't know if your comment was directed towards me or not Mac, but please clarify who you feel is acting stuck up about home audio here......

MacLeod

My comment was directed at anybody that posts snide little remarks about us car audio folks coming off like we're a bunch of stupid 15 year olds that wouldnt know the difference between a tweeter and a lawnmower.

Ya dont see them often, hence the "2 or 3" comment, but when you do it irritates me. My cousin irritated me once. Once!

VR3

I use glad press-n-seal wrap to line my subwoofer... no air leaks... gives off a nice 'crumpling' sound at higher volumes... (and u can microwave it)

brettw22

I can't control who takes offence to comments based on my experiences or observations. As I said before......don't like it, tough $hit.

Just as is the case with Home Audio, the MAJORITY of people that buy Car Audio stuff are NOT as into sound quality as we are and aren't typically looking for anything remotely close to the type of sound we look for.

How some people turned this into another crying match between Home and Car audio is beyond me.

If y'all are bothered by my originial post, I guess I should have put it into perspective with regard to my personal tastes in music. LSi type of sound is not what compliments what I listen to, and most likely I wouldn't consider them.

If people can't check their cry baby tendencies at the door when people don't jump for joy at everything they want people to, then we will continue (as is evidenced here) to have the same problems with the same types of people.

exalted512

Originally posted by brettw22
I don't know if your comment was directed towards me or not Mac, but please clarify who you feel is acting stuck up about home audio here......

ill clarify it. you are.

I dont know if youve noticed or not, problably not because youre oblivious to the world, but Polk doesnt make speakers that have mind numbing bass.
If one was to actually think about this, they would probably be smart enough to realize that the people that would be looking towards Polk in their car would be looking for sound quality because Polk doesnt do SPL. If I wanted straight SPL I'd go with Earthquake. Its the internet tough guys like you that run your mouth without thinking and starting crap. The majority of people who buy home theater buy Bose, I guess sums up all the HT people huh?

Mac,
Everytime you mention building a box it cracks me up...;)
-Cody

brettw22

Cody, what you need to get drilled through your head is I didn't ever say that YOU were looking for mind numbing bass. If you took offense to my comment, that's your problem, not mine.

If the comment doesn't apply to you, ignore it. I'm not the one getting all **** over someone elses opinion on what they have observed.

You want some sort of prize for being an exception to my experiences?

And YOU'RE the type that makes this forum into a HT vs. CA piss match. I haven't ever said I hate car audio. I haven't ever said that I think people that put money into car audio are idiots. I haven't ever implied that HT is superior to CA. If you take everything this personally you must be a miserable lil brat.

Just because I don't have any interest in putting a car system in the car I currently have, doesn't mean I think less of those that do, but if you'd like to be all victimized here i'll go ahead and let you whine to your hearts content.

exalted512

oo im sorry, i forgot, youre always right:rolleyes:
-Cody

brettw22

Are you the brother of someone here?

It is pretty funny that you're so irked with my opinion.....lighten up lil one.

exalted512

well did you even take in the post before last? because it sure seems like it didnt get through
-Cody

MacLeod

Originally posted by brettw22
I can't control who takes offence to comments based on my experiences or observations. As I said before......don't like it, tough $hit.

How some people turned this into another crying match between Home and Car audio is beyond me.

If people can't check their cry baby tendencies at the door when people don't jump for joy at everything they want people to, then we will continue (as is evidenced here) to have the same problems with the same types of people.

Originally posted by brettw22
Cody, go shove a cookie down your throat ya lil ****.I don't give a flying $hit what you have in your car or why. Your opinions on my opinions don't mean squat and if you don't like my opinions, tough $hit.

Originally posted by brettw22
Wow......what little twits we seem to have here.

You got balls, Ill give you that.

You start this hole brawl and then give us the babe of the woods act when someone actually responds to your bilge.

If I didnt want to start a HA vs CA brawl, I would come off with some crap like "99% of HA people dont care about SQ".

Youre right about one thing tho. You call people twits and **** and youre gonna have a problem with them.

brettw22

I clarified my first post if you look up 7 posts.

I'm not going to take responsibility for the hyper-sensitive ones in here. (regardless of their CA or HA affil.)

brettw22

Edit: started to try to protect the sensitive ones......oops.

audiobliss

Oh, my. Stuff like this is very depressing. It's sad when grown (well, I'd say everbody here is grown enough) people have to argue over stuff like this.....and argue....and argue.......and argue.......and then argue some more. I'm not going to go one way or the other on this, as I'm not looking for a brawl, and it seems we have one here. Why don't we all just stop this nonsense that is getting us absolutely nowhere (besides splitting the PolkAudio forum), and do something a little more constructive.

How 'bout this:
I've read that the LSi series speakers are very picky about amplification and placement and whatnot (read everything else) because of the Ring Radiator tweeter. Does this mean that, since the SR6500s have the Ring Radiator tweeter, that they're also going to be a pain to get set-up correctly in a car? I'm sure if you could do it, though, they'd sound awesome.

brettw22

Originally posted by audiobliss

How 'bout this:
I've read that the LSi series speakers are very picky about amplification and placement and whatnot (read everything else) because of the Ring Radiator tweeter. Does this mean that, since the SR6500s have the Ring Radiator tweeter, that they're also going to be a pain to get set-up correctly in a car? I'm sure if you could do it, though, they'd sound awesome.

Careful bliss, you may have inadvertently called them stupid for not being capable of figuring it out.....:rolleyes:

VR3

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spwuinmk67

Originally posted by brettw22
Careful bliss, you may have inadvertently called them stupid for not being capable of figuring it out.....:rolleyes:

You trying to piss people off? If so, you're doing a damn good job.

MacLeod

No, he cant control if people get offended at his comments. And be careful, you dont want to be a crybaby. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Audiobliss:
I sure hope not. Its a big enough pain in the **** to get tweeters placed and aimed right in the first place. I hope they dont become more complicated. Especially in my Ram. I have side bias issues out the wazoo already due my passenger door being 20 feet away.

Sid: LMFAO!!!

spwuinmk67

He may not be able to control people getting offended by his comments, but he can control making the offending comments. In a place like this, you can't please everyone, and someone will get offended by what you say, it's just gonna happen. But when you make comments like that, expect it.

Of all the people I've seen/heard with their customized systems, it's not sound quality I've noticed they were going for.

That right there is judging everyone because of your, seemingly limited, experience in this. Just because you haven't seen it, just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean it's not there. I'll say that most, if not all, of us in the CA side have our systems geared toward SQ. Yeah maybe some of us could shake **** near us, but thats not the priority. I've seen conversations about things you guys have broken, or shaken off shelves, due to the bass. So it's not just people who put systems in their cars who do it, it's everyone, just a matter of where they choose to.

bknauss

Originally posted by MacLeod
I dont think this speaker will be exclusively in BMW and Benz's. You dont see Focals and MB Quarts only in those cars do ya? There will be plenty of normal, blue collar cars with some of these in em. You dont have to drive a $50,000 car to have high end speakers.

Never said it would exclusively go into those types of cars... my 2 cents is that the SR6500s will be dropped into more higher end cars than economy type of cars (although I'll be offsetting that trend ).

MacLeod

Makes sense.

Is my Beloved Dodge Ram considered a high end car?!

phuz

Originally posted by audiobliss


How 'bout this:
I've read that the LSi series speakers are very picky about amplification and placement and whatnot (read everything else) because of the Ring Radiator tweeter. Does this mean that, since the SR6500s have the Ring Radiator tweeter, that they're also going to be a pain to get set-up correctly in a car? I'm sure if you could do it, though, they'd sound awesome.

Generaly, the placement concerns deal with imaging/soundstage. Anyone into car audio enough to invest in high end components are already going to spend a lot of time on placement trying to get things right. The Vifa ring radiator tweeter has been used in several competition worthy car audio systems in the past, Polk I think is just the first company to offer a component set with it.

Also, anyone into mobile audio enough to buy comps like that isn't going to run them off of a headunits amps. I'm sure just about any mobile amp will make them sound great, and again anyone who wants a product like that is most likely going to use some real sweet amps in their system.

Dispite what some might say or think, car and home audio have a lot in common. Especially when dealing with the different levels and classes of electronics, sound quality, etc.

I think it's really cool. Polk is finally making a product to compete with the MB Quarts, Focals, Rainbows, CDTs, Dynaudios, Image Dynamics, etc.

I can't wait to hear em.

[Deleted User]

Somewhat.

brettw22

Sid, take your cute little photo shop pic down.

The only people up to that point that were claiming this to be about ca vs ha were the car guys.....no need to join that ignorant arguement.

bknauss

Originally posted by audiobliss
How 'bout this:
I've read that the LSi series speakers are very picky about amplification and placement and whatnot (read everything else) because of the Ring Radiator tweeter. Does this mean that, since the SR6500s have the Ring Radiator tweeter, that they're also going to be a pain to get set-up correctly in a car? I'm sure if you could do it, though, they'd sound awesome.

Missed this among the hoopla

Yes, the ring radiators are a bit more directional. You sacrifice some off axis response for SQ. But we've listened to them in a compact car in the lower regions of the door, and they sounded darn good. To make them optimal, you'll have to play around with the placement and possibly do some DIY fabrication. But if you just drop them into stock locations, I doubt you'll be dissapointed.

exalted512

you listened to them in a compact car? i think you should listen to them in the worst of situations (like a full size truck) rather than the ideal car (compact)...
-Cody

AsSiMiLaTeD

Damn....some of you guys are way to sensitive...

Brett made a statement based on his experience...so what. And he DID say 99%, not ALL car audio people...and based on what I've seen, 99% is about accurate...

MacLeod

Maybe the new tweets being more directional could be a good thing as far as imaging.

With my tweeters mounted up in the mirror sails my stage height is nearly perfect, a little below eye level but the center is way to far to the left. Maybe if the MM6 tweets had a little less off axis response they wouldnt pull the stage this far over.