Monster Cable Dealers

phuz

Originally posted by PolkThug
When we listen to music we are continuously, hearing various frequencies at different amplitudes. There is equipment that can measure changes that are smaller than our ears can hear. Does anyone think they can hear the difference between a tone that is played .2 db's higher? My simple test gear can.

Exactly. .2db at a single freq. probably isn't really even audible. However, we aren't just dealing with a single freq. - when you have + or - .2db (more more or less) at varying points in the whole spectrum of frequencies, it can make a clearly audible difference on mid to high end systems, especially since the level of one freq. can cause other freqs. to be percieved differently.

F1nut

PT, bring some BBQ!

Frank, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Frank Z

Hold on a second skippy! No one gave you a hard time, no one bashed you for buying monster junk, no one questioned your parentage. You asked a question and some of us made comments about monster crap and their antics. Not one nasty comment was directed at you personnally.

You are welcome here, just like anyone else, but please don't expect anyone to change the way they feel about a product just to suit the new guy. Phuz seemed to help you out and that's what it's all about. His feelings on the whole monster issue are different than most of the folks here.

Ethancf

Originally posted by F1nut
Once again, you expected what??? :rolleyes:

A guy like phuz to come along...oh wait, he did, and it ended up being a win-win for both of us. See, a roll of the dice can lead to good fortune from time to time.

Airplay355

www.accessories4less.com has deals on IXOS wire and AR cables.

Ethancf

Originally posted by Frank Z
...but please don't expect anyone to change the way they feel about a product just to suit the new guy.

Now why in the world would I want that to be the case?

It was just a question about Monster dealers.

labrat

Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know. Screw the graph charts, your ears are the only true test. Cables DO make a difference.

I am not saying that the ear is not the ultimate test. I too have heard a difference with a direct, blind A/B test using cheap vs quality interconnects but when you live in flyover land there isn't much opportunity to hear direct, blind tests. The reason I was suggesting testing with a RTA is that once it is done, then read by anyone - anywhere. It is more sensitive in some areas than the human ear (note I did NOT say better) and gives a more direct peak at how different things sound than measuring the electrical properties of the wire. It is probably more accurate to measure the resistance etc and several of the people reading this board can describe the effect each measurement has, but I am willing to bet that most of the people reading this board are more interested in how it sounds than what the specs are - that is what the RTA is attempting to do in a way that we can all see. Not just a couple of people lucky enough to be at the test at the time.

Thanks again to PolkThug for his considerable time and trouble doing the testing,


Labrat

PolkThug

Originally posted by F1nut
PT, bring some BBQ!

Frank, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Hell yeah!

F1nut

Ethan, I'm happy for you. No, really I am.

Ethancf

Originally posted by F1nut
Ethan, I'm happy for you. No, really I am.

Thanks F1nut.

phuz

Brutal guys, just BRUTAL.

Ethan, I'll pack up the cables this weekend and wait for your envelope.

Ethancf

Originally posted by phuz
Brutal guys, just BRUTAL.

Ethan, I'll pack up the cables this weekend and wait for your envelope.

Sounds good phuz.

bknauss

Originally posted by Ethancf
I didn't have anything else to do I guess, so I thought I'd come to the Polk forum and cause all kinds of trouble with an innocent question. I should have assumed that everyone that comes to this forum is a Monster hater. If Monster questions are not allowed, it should be posted as a forum rule.

Ethan... let me introduce you to the idea that forums will be fan boys of certain things. Certain forums will love certain products and hate certain products. If you buy one of the loved products, they love you, if you buy something they don't like, you'll get yelled at. Bring up a suggestion they don't like... well, just read back through this thread

TroyD

Disagree.

It's not Monster's products nor even it's pricing. What's got everyone pissed off is the predatory business practices. Particulary trying to extort money from small businesses that use the name Monster that have absolutely NOTHING to do with audio. It's extortion, plain and simple.

I understand trying to and the need to protect a brand name and all but no one in thier right mind can argue the sanity of Monster's actions.

Additionally, much as I love Polk products, if I were to find that Polk was engaging in similar practices IE extorting money from Polk Sewing Machine Emporium in Pigsknuckle, Arkansas and so forth, I would never support Polk or it's products again.

BDT

F1nut

Brian,

While there is some truth to your statement, you also have to keep in mind that there are products which have been proven over time to be "good" or 'bad" and there's nothing wrong with sharing that information, in fact it should be shared. No one yelled at anyone in this thread, there were no personal attacks, no one said, if you buy that you'll be outcast. The fact is that Ethan already knew from other sources about said company's reputation before he posted here and in fact, I haven't seen one audio site where it hasn't been discussed. I dare say that the general opinion of said company is the same on other forums as it is here, shameful actions with no remorse. Why should they be supported in any fashion!?!

XOXO