U just Wont believe This

bam88
bam88 Posts: 82
edited March 2005 in Car Audio & Electronics
I ordered the p series orion 12"(x2) subs and Im not chittin ya they sent me 10" H2 (x2). I was like oh my freegin god!:eek:
So they RMS at 2k a piece anyone recomend an amp? Probably have to be 2 amps huh?
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    you can push them with something like one of these, depending upon the impedance of the vc's you have:

    hifonics goliath
    soundstream **** (maybe TOO much!)
    zapco c2k4kw
    a usamps ax DE class amp

    to figure out impedance, stick a mulitmeter across the coils wired in series... it should be either ~3 or ~7, which is a dual 2 and dual 4 ohm sub, respectively.

    EDIT: or, something kinda cool... put a 1000 watt amp on EACH VC!!!! it'd be like, damn, how do those things take that?!
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Youve GOT TO BE KIDDING?!?!?

    Damn dude! You need to go buy a lottery ticket! Talk about luck.

    Ya know, the honorable thing to do would be call em up and inform them of the mix up.........yeah ok, never mind.

    Youre going to need a TON of power to work those things right. You may want to consider selling one of them and going with a single.

    Youre gonna pay a pretty penny for 4000 watts in amps. The MTX 1501D was on sell for a great price but theyve since been taken off of SoundDomain's site.

    If they are dual 2 ohm VC's then go with this Crossfire VR2000D. Its way underrated and would probably put out 2300+ watts. An even better choice would be this Orion 2500D. Of course you could always get ya a couple of these Hifonics models.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    Well I was hoping to get one amp to power both of them.
    NOPE not kidding at all.... i was like holly phuckn chit!!!!
    Naa gonna go with both of them ... I have one mtx 1500d should I just get another or sell the mtx and buy one of those big **** hifonic amps? (goliath) or something?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    I believe MTX Thunder amps to be about the best amps on the market. Tons and tons of very clean power and unrivaled build quality. I would try REALLY hard to find another 1501D and use both of them.

    Crutchfield still has em but theyre $500 there.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    the one i have i got for 350 on ebay brand new
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    these are dual 4ohm so i would need a 1ohm stable highpower amp to push both of them at once or what?
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Well you could wire them in series which would give you a 4 ohm load.....I think....damn this stuff gives me a headache.

    Yeah. For a pair of 4 ohm DVC subs, youd be running a 1 ohm load. The Orion and Crossfire both are 1 ohm stable.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    well Id be wanting to push atleast 1,500 to each of them...
    you dont care for hifonics or something?
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    mac is very much about bang for the buck, and as such i'd trust his judgement on all things related to that.

    as a note, that pair of subs can be wired to either 1 or 4 ohms, as necessary... 1 is highly likely to be your best bet.
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Not really. Ive heard too many complaints of them up and dying.

    Mobile Entertainment did a review of one a year or so ago and the amp died on the test bench!

    However, Jstas and Cody have had a lot of success with them and swear by them so.....

    Everybody has their favorites and mine are MTX, Crossfire, Alpine and Xtant with a little JL Audio and Orion thrown in for good measure.
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    BUT... if I were to compete ...at all...even in small time stuff... for chump change... arent you supposed to only have One amp or something like that... I have no clue of the rules.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Im kind of hazy on this too as Im more into SQ than SPL.

    I think most orgs classify by total power. However there are some classes that go by number of amps.
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  • dakotaboy
    dakotaboy Posts: 47
    edited March 2005
    Bam88, let me know about those H2's. I'm getting one in april :D
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  • dakotaboy
    dakotaboy Posts: 47
    edited March 2005
    By the way Bam88, what kind of dodge do you have...Ram or Dakota?
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    RAM
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  • dakotaboy
    dakotaboy Posts: 47
    edited March 2005
    Sweet, dakota club cab here...
    Pioneer DEH-P7700MP CD receiver
    • http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIODEHP7700MP
    • Price: $249.95

    Polk Audio db Series Component speakers
    • http://www.cardomain.com/item/POLDB6750?vq_id=none
    • Price: $219.95

    HiFonics Titan TX 4005 2-channel amp for Comps.
    • http://www.cardomain.com/item/HIFTX4005
    • Price: $159.95

    Orion H2 10” Subwoofer (dual 2ohms [10.2])
    • http://www.cbrstereo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=462&HS=1
    • Price: $199.99

    HiFonics BX 1500D Mono amp for subwoofer
    • http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13121
    • Price: $279.00
    Thats the set up I'm hofully getting but I'm probably just drewling cuz I dont have the money...
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Hell yeah! Thats 2 Rams and 1 Dakota in here.

    This is DODGE COUNTRY!!

    On a quiet night you can hear the Fords rust.......Chevys too! :D
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  • spwuinmk67
    spwuinmk67 Posts: 797
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by MacLeod
    Hell yeah! Thats 2 Rams and 1 Dakota in here.

    This is DODGE COUNTRY!!

    On a quiet night you can hear the Fords rust.......Chevys too! :D
    Oh kiss my ****...lol
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    Yea they sent you blown H2's to see if you are honest. I chit you not... i've seen this before... if you don't contact them within a month they won't give you the ones you actually ordered.

    Good Luck!

    -adam:D :D:D:D
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by swerve
    Yea they sent you blown H2's to see if you are honest. I chit you not... i've seen this before... if you don't contact them within a month they won't give you the ones you actually ordered.

    Good Luck!

    -adam:D :D:D:D
    stfu
    thats pretty effin cool.
    usamps new de3000 will do 3000 watts at 1 ohm, sound better than a class d, and be a **** load more efficient
    down side, its a $1500 amp...
    -Cody
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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited March 2005
    for the 4000 watts he needs, that's gonna be the downside to every suitable amp or amp combo
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    disregard my first comment... that kicks **** man hopefully you can find an affordable :eek: :eek: amp to suite your need!

    -adam most
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    I think I am just going to buy another MTX1501D the H2s have recomendations for 2k setups and 1500 setups. I cant seem to find Goliath forsale anywhere. Ive found the Colossus but thats just 16kgoing to each sub might aswell get another MTX1501D:cool:
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited March 2005
    Good choice!
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2005
    The reason you can't find the right amp is the "Bad Karma" of keeping something that isn't yours.

    Return it and "do the right thing".
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by YourConscience
    The reason you can't find the right amp is the "Bad Karma" of keeping something that isn't yours.

    Return it and "do the right thing".
    man shut the hell up. i've had it with rule ankle biting ****'s like you... all night i've dealt with them... when in fact you guys are the ones who are the first to JUMP on a deal that will BENEFIT you and not others through dishonesty... we are all imperfect so don't preach it if you can't play it.

    go back home and eat your jealousy cake.

    -adam most
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2005
    All we do comes back to us 10 fold.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by YourConscience
    All we do comes back to us 10 fold.

    KICKASS!! bam is gonna get 20 subs in the afterlife!!!
    Never Forget
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  • swerve
    swerve Posts: 1,862
    edited March 2005
    bleh. i'm not arguing... i obviously beat him first round so yea.... honesty is good... but preaching it isn't cool. it's a ca forum not a church.

    goodbye
    -adam most
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  • bam88
    bam88 Posts: 82
    edited March 2005
    LMAO... when they realize they made the mistake and pay for the shipping i will send them back. I am almost 100 percent sure they think they sent me the p series because the shipping label on they box even says P12D2.
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