Velodyne sub vs. Polk's subs

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    You wont go wrong with ANY of the subs man...

    Outlaw, SVS, HSU...

    Flip a freakin coin...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    And that's what I will do ..............:D
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Heads or tails?:D
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    It is always heads.....:p
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    Prices w/shipping and tax

    Outlaw $642
    SVS $601
    HSU $750 (it might be cheaper. I have sent them e-mail if they have a b-stock)
    I will go with the cheapest........:p
    Thanks for your help
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    Which subwoofer carries "taxes" for you?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    I have to pay taxes for SVS..... it sucks:mad:
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2005
    IMO, the Polk PSW505 is better than the Velodyne CHT series or the Velo DSP 10" model, and also better than some of the Velo VAI models. If you want infrasonic bass (sub 20Hz), and your budget is $500, the SVS PB10 at $429 plus ship is your best option.

    Regards,
    PolkThug
  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2005
    I'd go with the Velo, but if you have a local dealer check out the REL line of subs....suppose to be very musical.
  • jimed1
    jimed1 Posts: 53
    edited February 2005
    After reading all the opinions on here, I think I would probably pass out if I heard a good sub. I have a Polk PSW350 and I always thougt it sounded pretty good for movies and music as long as I run it about 60% of full volume and don't overdrive the rest of my system. My room is about 25 x 13.
    Front: RTi70
    Center: CSi40
    Rear: RTi28
    Sub: PSW505
    AVR: Onkyo TX-SR600
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited February 2005
    I'd start with the SVS because I'm sure there has to be some sort of return policy being they only sell online with no way of hearing them without forking out the cash. If you get it home and don't like it, look elsewhere. Hell, there's some sick deals on ebay and audiogon as always. I have the Sunfire Super Junior and absolutely love it. But you're looking around the $800 ('Net pricing) mark. It's extremely small at only 9"x9"x9" and is very musical. My g/f doesn't mind because it's tiny and I love it because it has balls.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

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    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    SVS has like a 30 or 45 day return policy, no questions asked...

    You just gotta pay for the shipping...

    The majority of the owners never used this return policy no how...

    "My g/f loves it because it is small, I love it because it has balls..." - Toxis..

    Your so going in my signature man...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2005
    if you don't mind paying 50 - 100 bucks in return shipping, HOwever, "IF" you decide to buy one, and your not stuck on having the "name brand" or audiophile subs, I do not think the first thought will be the return policy. I have heard One person not like the SVS, the rest of the nay sayers never heard one anyways :D Not the be all end all, i suppose for some... It is for me, ;) though

    Good luck in your search
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    SVS pb12/plus2


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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by Toxis
    My g/f doesn't mind because it's tiny and I love it because it has balls.

    INSTANT CLASSIC!!!:D
  • Whadyasay
    Whadyasay Posts: 300
    edited February 2005
    I've never owned a sub from Polk or Velo, but from what I can gather from those who have, Velodyne makes better subs per dollar than Polk....which is pretty understandable since Velodyne specializes in subwoofers, and Polk has many other speaker types to deal with.

    When you look at companies like HSU and SVS, who also specialize in subs, you have to figure that if they were selling through the same dealer chains as Polk and Velodyne, instead of consumer-direct, their products would be considerably more expensive. So aside from making some kick-**** subs, they are kick-**** values for the money.
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by Whadyasay
    [When you look at companies like HSU and SVS, who also specialize in subs, you have to figure that if they were selling through the same dealer chains as Polk and Velodyne, instead of consumer-direct, their products would be considerably more expensive. So aside from making some kick-**** subs, they are kick-**** values for the money. [/B]
    Good point. I went to the local HT store and the prices were just killing me. The sub that was presented to me Velodyne Digital series DD-10" was imazing. I never heard suche a deep and clean bass but when I asked for price they told me $2199 my jaw just dropped. The sub itsel is not biger then a cubic foot and gives emazing bass but the price is just not for my pocket. I stick with SVS 25-31 PCi or HSU VTF 3 which ever I will be able to get cheaper.
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • jimed1
    jimed1 Posts: 53
    edited March 2005
    Since you have heard teh velodyne DD-10 at $2199, please let us know how the sound compares with either the HSU or SVS when you get it. I am very interested.
    Front: RTi70
    Center: CSi40
    Rear: RTi28
    Sub: PSW505
    AVR: Onkyo TX-SR600
  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited March 2005
    Well, it will take a while since I have purchased CSi5 center channel recently and I am a little broke right now. But probably next month or so I will buy SVS 25-31PC +. Until then I can't say much.
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
  • Nemesis
    Nemesis Posts: 70
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    If you want infrasonic bass (sub 20Hz), and your budget is $500, the SVS PB10 at $429 plus ship is your best option.
    PolkThug

    Actaully that's the only name brand sub I've seen that's infrasonic. Guess it shows what I know:rolleyes:.

    My best friend and I plan to build a sub so I haven't had to think about this. But sorry guys if I wanted to buy a name brand I think I would have to go with the SVS PB10. I've fallen to the dark side...
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  • brody05
    brody05 Posts: 329
    edited March 2005
    I dont have the oppertunity to hear lots of brands available to you all but I have always thought quite highly of the PSW650 from polk, stays tight, very musical and can put out enough bass without having a hernia to keep up with most systems. Must be some of these 2nd hand going cheap......
  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    bump.

    sorry fellas- i just had to look at Gary's SUPER VELO and gorgeous 12's just one mo' time!

    :D
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by aaharvel
    bump.

    sorry fellas- i just had to look at Gary's SUPER VELO and gorgeous 12's just one mo' time!

    :D
    Thanks dude....and yes they're gorgeous and I get to look and listen to them everyday:D
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  • ndrwcn
    ndrwcn Posts: 30
    edited July 2005
    on a practical note- i tried one of the entry level velodyne's, the VRP-1000. this 10 inch sub sounded good, but the auto-on function would not work for me, and there was no "on" setting to leave it always on. so though it sounded good, the sub would not turn on for me when listening to classical, jazz, or anything without a pounding bass line, unless i turned the volume up to 75% and then turned it back down. and velodyne was of no help in solving this problem, as it is a hardware problem. i had heard of this problem before, and had hoped it was not true.

    so i got a PSW303, which is an 8 inch, and is rated with 50 less watts, and i am happy with it. and it turns on as soon as the music starts, and i have never had it distort, bottom out, or do anything other than sound good.
  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited July 2005
    Originally posted by ndrwcn
    on a practical note- i tried one of the entry level velodyne's, the VRP-1000. this 10 inch sub sounded good, but the auto-on function would not work for me, and there was no "on" setting to leave it always on. so though it sounded good, the sub would not turn on for me when listening to classical, jazz, or anything without a pounding bass line, unless i turned the volume up to 75% and then turned it back down. and velodyne was of no help in solving this problem, as it is a hardware problem. i had heard of this problem before, and had hoped it was not true.

    Velodyne put out a release about this:

    http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/support/VX10_VRP_Addendum.aspx?sid=809u109u
    Receiver: harmankardon AVR235
    Mains: polk R30
    Center: polk CSi3
    Rear Surrounds: polk R20
    Subwoofer: polk PSW404
    DVD: Panasonic DVD-S29
  • louthewiz
    louthewiz Posts: 581
    edited July 2005
    Well I always liked the velodynes and I saw a great deal at jandr music world for a dps-10 , I wanted one of the refurbed units for $199.00 but they ran out and I was a bit angered so there was an open box return and I asked the salesman what was wrong with it and he replies that it was returned because the customer's wife said it was too big I asked how much it was and he said $219.00 and I jumped on it took it home and set it up and I like it alot ,but the placement was a bit tough to find a good spot but when I did I was amazed with the bass this thing puts out. So my advice is take your time and get what you like.:)
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    Polk FX300fxi dipole surrounds
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited July 2005
    Congratulations Lou. I've always liked Velodyne subs for their musiciality. The ability to go down to 20hz means nothing to me. I live in a Condominium- and I didn't want a 2-note behmoth sub in my den. I only had two requirements- The thing needed to be able to go down to 30hz and play VERY accurately with music. I bought my 10 and never looked back. :)
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

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  • louthewiz
    louthewiz Posts: 581
    edited July 2005
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    My gear,
    Acer PH530 720P PJ
    100 inch Da-Lite Video Spectra screen
    Yamaha HTR 5790
    Toshiba HD-A3
    Denon 1600 dvd player with sdi out,
    DVDO iSCAN HD+
    Panasonic Dmr E-80H
    Dishnetwork HD pvr
    1 Audiosource amp300 150 wpc Fronts
    1 Audiosource ampone bridged 200 watts powering center
    1 Onkyo M-282 105 wpc amplifier sides
    polk cs400 center
    polk RT400 mains
    Polk mkII back surrounds,
    Polk FX300fxi dipole surrounds
    Velodyne DPS-10 sub
    Klipsch KSW-10 sub.:cool: