Velodyne sub vs. Polk's subs

tomek_bak
tomek_bak Posts: 24
edited July 2005 in Speakers
I heard a lot about Velodyne subwoofers and I am new to Polk Audio. Are thay any better than Polk's Subs? I need your opinion.
Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
Front: Theater Research TR-2800
Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2005
    Check out SVS...
    They are regarded around here as one of the best....
    If not "the" best...

    http://www.svsubwoofers.com

    do a search ,or go to the bass management section, and get your read on..
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Here we go again.:rolleyes:
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2005
    Here we go again.

    for some reason I felt compeled to put in my .02...:rolleyes:

    I`ll try to control myself for the rest of the evening....!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Why do you SVS owners feel compelled to recommend SVS everytime someone asks a question about subwoofers. The guy asked for info/opinions regarding Velodyne and Polk. If he asks about SVS, go for it, otherwise stick to the question at hand.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2005
    yes sir,
    may I have another...:(
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    No...go to bed.
    9/11 - WE WILL NEVER FORGET!! (<---<<click)
    2005-06 Club Polk Football Pool Champion!! :D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2005
    K
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    Thanks Frank Z. You saved me from asking why SVS are so good. So what is your opinion Frank? Personally I would like to get Velodyne SPL-1200 but it is out of my range. I cannot afford it. So what you say about Velodyne VA-1012X Series II? I could probablly get it for under $250? Or is Polk PWS505 better for movies like also music wise?
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    Dangit...

    We understand Frank has a thing against SVS, because their big and bad...

    He owns a Sunfire, he likes it, he recomends it. We know it.

    Polk has nothing on Velodyne except the PSW 1200 and the LSiW - two of which are discontinued and no longer available.

    Velodyne makes great subs, for the money - SVS or HSU will absolutely beat them. 100%

    More solid output, lower extention, everything.

    But, Velodyne is a great subwoofer, and you wouldnt go wrong. However, it is out of the league of Polk. No comparison. The PSW 505 is a good subwoofer, it just isnt a subwoofer you'll want to watch a movie with any type of low end extention. Velodyne can hit low, but SVS can hit down to 18hz with 400 + s

    Why do we recomend SVS? Because they're some of the best things for the money, and we as forum members want newbies and regulars alike to get the best thing possible...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2005
    Fraaaaaank..?







    can I have a glass o water...?








    I`m thirstyyyy.......


    J/K.....

    thanks,

    Vr3MxStyler2k3...

    I was just gonna say....because...
    :D

    I`ll go to bed now.... :rolleyes:
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Sid, aren't you supposed to be studying for a urine test or something?

    I've got nothing against SVS, I've got a problem with everybody that owns one trying to cram it down everybody else's throat every time I log onto this forum. There are plenty of high-performance subs out there and not everyone wants to own an SVS sub....AKA The Fugly Pickle Barrel.

    Velodyne makes a fine sub and might be just the ticket for you, or it might sound like crap in your room. The only way to know for sure is to try one. Could be that the Polk 505 will perform beautifully for you as well. You can listen to as many opinions as you like, but nothing is going to beat an in-home audition. Maybe not practical, but it's really the only way to know for sure.

    Seems that some folks are looking for positive reinforcement of their decision to purchase a particular brand of sub by getting other to buy the same. I musta bought a good sub cuz everybody else is buying it too....yipee!

    Your ears, your music, your room. Don't buy anything based on what you've been told, buy based on what you hear.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    Who said Velodyne was bad?

    I know I didnt...

    And if you dont want a 'pickle barrel' get a box sub...hello??

    I understand you dont want to be like the crowd, but it dosnt change the fact of what value HSU, Adire Audio, and SVS hold over the market.

    You may not want to admit it, and dont want to accept it - and you may be tired of that fact, but...does it really matter?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Who said Velodyne was bad?

    No one did...dipstick.:rolleyes:

    Pickle barrel, over-grown toy box...it's still FUGLY!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    Well I highly doubt the reason this guy is looking for a sub is cosmetics, which SVS's look good regardless - so that isnt even the point...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited February 2005
    This argument has happened how many times...?
    I don't have much experience in either sub besides the fact that I don't like the Digital Sound Processing in some of the Velodynes, I like to keep my speakers simple including my speakers, I do know that Polk does keep it simple.
    If you feel comfortable enough with wood working, you can build you own sub, just a thought.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2005
    Low end Velodyne subs and Polk subs are about the same.

    I listened to many of both and for the money on both sides of the fence , your fine. Polk psw505 is a fine woofer for the money. Your not spending alot and not getting alot. Same with Velodyne , if you want a good sub from them, your gonna have to save more money.They don't get really good untill you spend over a grand with them. All there subs under that are sub par.

    The SVS thing??? I have heard 2 of them and I'm not impressed. I agree with the ugly comments.There sick looking.

    Dan
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited February 2005
    A little while ago I bought the new Velodyne DLS-5000R....This thing kicks some serious butt and looks awesome with the high gloss front.....for a msrp of $800....I paid $720 and it can be bought for less on the net.....this is a 15 with a lot of power...oh it also comes with a remote.

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    I agree with the PSW505 as a starting and ending point for the current Polk lineup. I don't have much experience with higher end Velodyne, but the low end is nothing amazing.

    SVS is an excellent choice, but certainly don't limit yourself to them as a choice.

    Outlaw and HSU would be very nice alternatives, in an affordable bracket. I just helped a friend buy a complete Outlaw package, to include two Outlaw subwoofers...needless to say he's pretty thrilled.
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    I have checked the HSU and as a cabinet stand they are not looking too bad and the reviews are really great. GaryZ06 thanks for the coment about Velodyne but as I said I don't want to spend more than $500. I don't have too much money and I need a subwoofer. I made my mind and I am returning my CSi3 and getting CSi5. I think it would be worth it.
    Another question: For my speaker set up what would be better
    - HSU VTF-2 MK 2 OR HSU VTF-3 MK 2
    What do you think about my HK DPR-1001? I think I need some more power, right???
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited February 2005
    If you have a tweeter nearby (the store, not the transducer!), they have Polk and Velo. subs. Do a demo and figure out which one you like best.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2005
    for under 500 this should knock your sox off, and its "alot" smaller then the usual large box subs http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb10_isd.htm :D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2005
    your telling me this is two big? :eek:

    :D:D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    faster100 is this one of the SVS B12-Plus/4
    :D ?????
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    I went to Circut City and I was not impressed with any of the subs they have. Probably my best choice would be Velodyne but I do not think that I would buy it.
    Thanks guys for your help!!!!!!!!!!!
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited February 2005
    Here ya go....
    http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1.html
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited February 2005
    Velodyne is better than Polk? I was under the impression they were in the same league.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,776
    edited February 2005
    The Outlaw subwoofer is practically identicle to the HSU VTF 3 - infact, Dr. HSU helped designed it...

    Great sub...

    Polks newer subs are closer to competeing with Velo. - still arnt quite there. Both dont compare with HSU or SVS in the price range he is looking in
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  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited February 2005
    The Germans used to make good subs but then along came the Americans. Be patient, listen to as many products as possible, trust your own ears.

    cubdog
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2005
    Actually I got to hear the Outlaw sub setup by Outlaw themselves.

    I was impressed. For that kind of money, it's going to be very hard to beat. I feel it's a step above the Lower end Velodynes and Polk subs.

    So much fun shopping,

    Dan
    Dan
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  • tomek_bak
    tomek_bak Posts: 24
    edited February 2005
    Frank Z did you have a chance to hear the performance of the above specified by sub? What do you think? Does it kick a*s SVS SV25-31PCi and HSU VTF-3 MK 2? I want something good but cheap and those are reasonable prices for me.
    Thanks
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3 (soon SCi5)
    Front: Theater Research TR-2800
    Surround: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Rear: Harman Kardon Sat-HKS-2
    Reciver: Harman Kardon DPR-1001
    DVD: Onkyo DV-SP301
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