Toshiba 3960

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    You have an odd sense of budget friend. I've been using a pair of Carver Amazing Platinum Mk.IV speakers since 1991, and if you could find something that will significantly outperform them for up to $100,000, I'd like to know what they are. That monetary comparison comes from the Boston Audio Society, and their words carry a little more clout with me than yours do. Their second favorite speaker, the AR-9, is in my other room.

    Budget this.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Jesus George no need to get your undies in a bunch. I believe we were talking about a modded Magnavox cd player and a Radio Shack portable and an $50 Toshiba dvd player. That's what I was refering too as "budget" equipment. I've been around here long enough to know you don't have budget equipment, but thanks for reminding me!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    That Magnavox sold for $1,650 a looong time ago. Euphonic Tech. bought up all the stock Mag 650's they could find and then modded them and sold them under their own name.

    I'm not liking your original comment about rolling on the floor laughing your **** off when you see people trying to find "a pearl in a pile of ****." You don't have enough posttime or credibility on this forum to come walking through the door talking like that. My undies are always in a bunch, and if you were here long enough you'd know that, and the likelihood of them unbunching not being real good.

    Considering the original retail price of a pair of Amazing's, THOSE are pearls surrounded by ****. The Rat Shack WAS a pearl in a pile of ****. The little Adcom 535 that YOU DON'T HAVE was a pearl in a pile of ****. The NAD 3020 was a pearl in a pile of ****, as well as the Advent 300 receiver. Maybe you've been looking through the wrong piles of ****

    Don't come in here acting like a troll man.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited March 2005
    Illinois?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    I was thinking the same thing but didn't think it out loud like you did in case there are people we like there. You know, you bring out the absolute worst in me.

    George
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Jesus H christ lighten up. What the hell is wrong with Illinois? I'm not trying to be a troll and atleast I don't act like an **** elitiest audiophile who enjoys dumping on other people stuff. I don't care how much your system costs it doesn't impress me. If you like it great, that's what it is all about. I'm trying to have a discussion and you act like it just pissed your beer. Since when do I need your approval to have credibility here. How many posts do I need to make before I can be let into your little club? Some of you are acting like this is a goddamn countryclub and somehow I have to pay my dues!

    It's just a discussion. Somehow you feel I attacked you by using the term budget. And yes trying to get a $50 Tosh DVD player to sound like a 10 times more expensive player is trying to find a pearl in a pile of ****, period. I've been here before, so don't think I'm just discovering what cranky, ownry, cuss's some of you can be sometimes.

    Sorry you didn't like my comments. I found humor in your escapade, if you didn't I can't help that.

    If you don't like my posts don't read them.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    You need to learn how to sound a little less condescending, feel your way around a little before you open your mouth, and check with Sid to see if it's alright for you to post.

    Good NIIIIGHT!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

    And stop calling me Jesus Christ.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Seems you are the one throwing around how much your stuff costs and what audio organizations approve of your systems(s).Sorry but that behavior could be construed as condescending. I never intended to be condescending. As far as feeling my way around....I believe I'm entitled to my own opinion. You need to learn to stop taking things so personally. I'm not here to earn your approval. I don't believe I've disrespected you or anyone else here. The Illinois thing from Russman and you was a much more personal attack then I ever levied against either of you.

    Funny how when you express your opinion the wolves start circling.

    Fine, I'm taking my ball and going home!!! Maybe tomorrow we can play nice!

    Heiney9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by heiney9
    Fine, I'm taking my ball and going home!!! Maybe tomorrow we can play nice!


    Gotta admit, he's got a sense of humor. :)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2005
    Some of you are acting like this is a goddamn countryclub and somehow I have to pay my dues!

    This isn't a countryclub? :confused: Awright guys, very funny......now gimme my money back :mad:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2005
    Ooh di dee d dum, deese guys messin round.......mumble....whats this, Toshiba 3950 is a recommended component (well Class D) as a TRANSPORT no less, in the snooty stereo rag we love to hate!! man this is crazy....wtf little thingy needs a DAC cuz its got the jitters.............

    :rolleyes:
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    I put ZERO faith in anything Stereophile says. Whether it be good/bad, or about something I love/hate. Those guys are kept women at this point. I've been subscribing since 1989, and they have beat the living snot out of stuff that I thought sounded great, and loved stuff that made my ears bleed. If a subscription wasn't $13 a year now, I'd unsubscribe.

    Is a 3950 a 3960? Mine's a 3960 and it bites the big one.

    Jesse, he's going to NEED a sense of humor.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited March 2005
    Stereophile comes in, it goes STRAIGHT to the top of the toliet tank in the guest bath. I find it pallatable while I'm getting my grunt on. Sometimes, it's ALMOST better than MAD magazine, but without the crazy page fold-up at the end.

    George, drop $150 on a NAD and call it day. Forget that grunt Tosh stuff.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Very happy with the Sony ES I stole from some dude in The Azores for $15.

    George
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2005
    I like Sony CDP's, they've got a signature sound that has alot of slam; maybe not the most articulate player in the world, but articulation is for pansy's anyway. They're especially good with rock music and jazz.

    Years ago I had a Sony some-such, can't even remember the model, but is was not an es machine. It was a midline changer, and when I replaced it with a Cambrige Audio D500SE, it took a little getting used to. The Cambridge felt laid back in comparison, slow almost...
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2005
    Your missing my point my fine friends, or maybe I am not understanding yours, why would this mag which as has been said is compromised by its own high dollar friends even mention this little thing from Tosh? How much can Tosh possibly be making on a 70 buck retail machine. I have one it sounds better than a shuffle player I have which really is not saying a whole lot, however, mine can stand on its own four feet!!! GG I have been told the 60 is better than the 50 stock so see you are already upgraded, cheers. I dont see it as a so called giant killer but rather a novelty, mine is back in its box resting peacefully, maybe I will try to mod it or ask max to, but would rather find one of the real gems, give ya 25 and your pick on a bottle of fine rum for the ES.

    BTW they also gave a thumbs up to LSi7 and RTi4 along with their usual list of suspects.

    RT1
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2005
    my 3960 sounds fine. just doesn't always work reading CD's like it's suppose to. it locks up. on occasion.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by danger boy
    my 3960 sounds fine. just doesn't always work reading CD's like it's suppose to. it locks up. on occasion.

    Stock? or modded? To each their own, but if it sounds fine what sounds like crap to you?

    Heiney9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2005
    but if it sounds fine what sounds like crap to you?

    Ummm.....living in Illinois? :confused:
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2005
    It sounds good to me, maybe not everyone needs a higher ground... those who don't know... sometimes rather not know... :D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by dragon1952
    Ummm.....living in Illinois? :confused:

    That's the second crack about Illinois. Is there a problem?

    Heiney9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by faster100
    It sounds good to me, maybe not everyone needs a higher ground... those who don't know... sometimes rather not know... :D

    Good point:cool:

    I keep forgetting some people aren't as anal as I am. Just trying to put it all in perspective. Different strokes for different folks.

    Heiney9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2005
    mine is 100% stock baby. no mods here. I'm impressed with the detail. More detail than i've heard before from any DVD while playing CD's.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Seeing how you're too damn stubborn to scare away.......

    SURE there's something wrong with Illinois. It's one of the states that starts with the letter "I" isn't it? The original plan was to call the three of them West Corn, East Corn, and Central Corn, but it proved kind of difficult for the denizens to remember which one they were from, so they gave them the "I" names.

    Then there's the other problem with states that start with "I". The driving in circles thing. When other states got cars, they WENT SOMEWHERE with them. Exploring. Driving around looking for stuff like Columbus. "I" staters drove in circles. Then people from the other "I" states came to watch, scratch their heads, and be "intrigued" by people driving fast in circles. A LOT of them came to be "intrigued" as a matter of fact. Then, I believe a guy from Jersey drove out there (in a straight line), and told all those folks that they couldn't stand around, watch, and be "intrigued" unless they bought tickets off him. That's how you got the Indy 500 out there, and you have a Jersey guy to thank for the whole thing.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2005
    Tired of watching the cars go round? You watch the cars go around real fast......and I'll evolve.

    Good NIIIIGHT!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2005
    That's how you got the Indy 500 out there, and you have a Jersey guy to thank for the whole thing.

    Fascinating! :eek: I learned a lot there I never knew before.
    Thank you George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by George Grand
    Tired of watching the cars go round? You watch the cars go around real fast......and I'll evolve.

    Good NIIIIGHT!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

    Don't care for Nascar, but thanks for inventing it George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

    Let me know when your process of evolving starts...you don't have much time left. Yea, your right, there's a lot of 'effing corn around here, but we don't grow that in the city, which is where I live. We even have electricity and running water and my crapper is in doors as well......Pretty evolved if you ask me:D

    Heiney9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited March 2005
    Unless things have vastly changed in the last 3 months, Jersey isn't exactly something to brag about.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2005
    Unless things have vastly changed in the last 3 months. Jersey isn't exactly something to brag about.

    Excuse me, but did you mean that to be two sentences? :confused:
    No offense, just wondering is all :rolleyes:
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited March 2005
    Originally posted by dragon1952
    Excuse me, but did you mean that to be two sentences? :confused:
    No offense, just wondering is all :rolleyes:

    Nope. Thanks for the proof read.:D
    HT
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