Wires to go with speakers

TrappedUnder Ice
TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
edited March 2005 in Speakers
hehe.... gonna be wiring up new home theater...IN-wall speaker wires... need some recomendations of where to get some "bulk" on-line...I want good stuff...please...thanx

Thomas A.
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited February 2005
    www.partsexpress.com
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited February 2005
    yeah..been to parts express...not impressed...but thanx
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    Obviously a good suggestion above, here is another that a fellow Polkie found recently:

    www.cobaltcable.com

    Made in the USA, and available in bulk.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited February 2005
    thanx...that cobalt cable looks exactly what I'm looking for.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2005
    Cobalt in wall $1.09 a foot. Looks like a good way to go.

    Technical Details:

    Overall Nominal Diameter: .313 Inch (5/16")
    Conductor: 12 AWG Ultra-Pure Oxygen-Free Copper
    Shield: N/A
    Resistance: 1.4 Ohms per 1000'
    Inductance: .14 uH/ft.
    Insulation: UL-CL3 PVC
    Never Forget
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited February 2005
    I just ordered some Cobalt wire and it shipped today. Can't wait to get it! Seeing my speakers are still on order, I'm going to take them over to a buddy's to put on his Logan's (parasound amp). Then I gotta get 'em to another buddy to show him how bad Monster sucks ****.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    edited February 2005
    http://www.cobaltcable.com/coupon/index.htm

    Thats the link to a 10% off at Cobalt cables... :) .
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited February 2005
    double check to see if the coupon code "newsletter" is still working. That's what I used and got 30% off. HELL YEAH!
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2005
    Do cobaltcables design the wire or just build them?
    I looked at there site and didn't find to much Info.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • jimed1
    jimed1 Posts: 53
    edited February 2005
    Why does everyone think that Monster Cable is not good? Over priced or bad performance. How can the they be that bad
    Front: RTi70
    Center: CSi40
    Rear: RTi28
    Sub: PSW505
    AVR: Onkyo TX-SR600
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by jimed1
    Why does everyone think that Monster Cable is not good? Over priced or bad performance. How can the they be that bad
    over-priced. performance isn't all that bad, and they're worth it if you can find for really cheap, but you can do so much better for your money...
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    Mantis - Cobalt cables are manufactured in-house.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by mantis
    Do cobaltcables design the wire or just build them?
    I looked at there site and didn't find to much Info.

    Dan
    Copied from their site...
    Buy Direct and Save
    All Cobalt Cables are designed and manufactured by us. You will not find identical "clone" products to ours anywhere.
    Each and every Cobalt Cable is hand-assembled by our own staff in the U.S.A.
    On top of being hand-assembled, each and every Cobalt Cable is hand-tested before being shipped to ensure optimum quality and performance.
    Each and every Cobalt Cable comes with a 90-day money-back guarantee, as well as a "no questions asked" lifetime warranty*.
    Every U.S. Cobalt Cable order is eligible for Free Fed Ex Shipping.
    Since we sell direct to you, all cables are sold "wholesale", saving you paying high distributor and dealer markups common with retail audio and video cables.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited February 2005
    Ok...let me ask this.
    wich would you go with

    My question is... the wire is not THX certified (cobalt). Not that it means a bunch of ditty too me....but say- 5yrs down the line I have to sell the house. Do you think being able to say that the in-wall speaker wires are THX certified would mean anything.

    Locally...I can get the THX certified Monster 14g in wall for .55/ft.

    decisions...decisions??

    I dont mind paying the 1.09...thats not the issue...I'm just wondering quality wise...and maybe re-sale wise?
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited February 2005
    About 90% of the buyers out there are going to **** about the wires sticking out of the walls and want you to patch all those holes up... so I wouldn't worry about whether or not they say THX on them.

    The other thing is, those cables probably exceede THX specs- Cobalt just doesn't want to pay George Lucas way too much money to use his stupid logo.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
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    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    I agree.

    You can't THX certify a wire, that's just marketing. Don't feed the machine.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited February 2005
    From the THX wesite:

    ****************************************************The criteria by which THX certifies cables include:

    Audio cable electrical specifications for insertion loss and bandwidth to minimize frequency response deviations and signal losses, given a usage length.


    A widely recognized color coding standard for easy channel recognition and simplified polarization.


    Jacket printing of vital information to indicate polarity, grounding location and usage length limits.


    Mechanical specifications for connection integrity insuring cabling’s longevity and reliability.


    Video cable electrical specifications for insertion loss and bandwidth to preserve color purity and picture detail and stability.
    ****************************************************

    So basically a well-labeled lamp cord could feasibly be certified THX. Put in your cobalt cables and just tell the buyers that they're THX. You'll be happy and they'll be happy.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2005
    My underwear is THX certified.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited February 2005
    UNC2701....this room is going to be a dedicated HT Room. I dont think they will want it patched up :)
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  • tonyv1
    tonyv1 Posts: 365
    edited February 2005
    I want THX underwear, does it come in boxer briefs?
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited February 2005
    Originally posted by TrappedUnder Ice
    I dont mind paying the 1.09...thats not the issue...I'm just wondering quality wise...and maybe re-sale wise?
    I wouldn't worry about that. You would be buying a quality cable with less signal loss than Monster's stuff. Go quality and don't look back.

    I actually just received all my cables today and all I can say is WOW! Definitely amazing cables. VERY well built. I got ballsy and started yanking on connectors to see how well they're put together (do that to a monster and see what happens). I'm extremely impressed. Now I just gotta get all my equipment here so I can use them. haha
    Originally posted by tonyv1
    I want THX underwear, does it come in boxer briefs?
    yes they do... with a glow in the dark Light Sabre (properly placed of course). :D
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • TrappedUnder Ice
    TrappedUnder Ice Posts: 975
    edited March 2005
    I have to give two thumbs up so far. I ordered my In wall wire from Cobalt on Monday...and it shows up on thursday! And no shipping cost. So far...from build quality/looks...very impressive and the 200ft on the roll they sent me...quite heavy.
    I'll give an update once its installed an running!

    cheers.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited March 2005
    sounds good... can't wait to see what you think of 'em. Next year when I buy my house, I'll get Cobalt inwalls for my rears and do it right.
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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