Any Rti12 owners?

steveinaz
steveinaz Posts: 19,538
edited December 2004 in Speakers
Tell me about the Rti12 sound, I really interested in these pups...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    not me....I wish, though....look like awesome speakers; I'm interested to see what the general consensus is about them...
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited December 2004
    I assume you mean anything else than these puppies are huge
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2004
    You got some 12's Willow/ Give up the info, man...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2004
    Yeah, spill your guts. I wanted to get them also, but the power factor came into play. When I got this system in January, I didn't have any extra cash to buy a stronger amp. That is the reason I didn't try to get them.:(
    I'd still like to know what it would be like to hear a pair. Those big **** are what, 500w each right? If so I would have to move into a tent if I turned them up too loud.:D As a matter of fact, I get derrty looks from the old lady right now if I crank my RTi10s up too loud.:mad: <(the old lady)
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,056
    edited December 2004
    I don't I'm trying for 8's but I have seen those 12's and they are tall yes but deep, HOLY CRAP they are. Lets just say for the size of them you'd want a big room or the tweets will be right in your ears they are that deep.... my wife tells me 1000x a day not to exagerate so much :eek: but they are massive
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Steve...

    If you are looking for a strong music performer...

    Well, they arnt for you...

    The LSi line is better suited for music, or the older Polks. Or the First RT line...

    I heard these at Polk with a bunch of other members, and the general thought when we went back to the 'board room' was there was something missing...

    And there was, especially for music...

    For DVD-A, they were pretty good with all 5 speakers on
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2004
    What is the down fall of the RTi12s on music Sid?:confused:
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Well, one of the things that was pointed out in the 'board room' was they had about zero depth in the instruments, vocals etc, and not to mention they were bright...

    They also didnt have alot of bass considering all the subs they had. But they were only being pushed with a 200 watt Conrad Johnson, so who knows...

    I think the RTi6 and a subwoofer would be a better combination than the RTi12...

    The RT line is called...

    REFERENCE THEATER for a reason ya know? They do good in music, but their real talent is theatrical production ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2004
    Are there any monster amps out there powerfull enough to put them to the test?
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited December 2004
    I don't have the 12's, but the 10's are strong performers for HT. Willow is right -- them 12's are too damn big. My 10's are huge (room size 13' x 20'); they looked a lot smaller in the showroom, so I can imagine that the 12'swould engulf an average size room.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited December 2004
    The RTi12's are better than LSi if you are doing rock.
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  • Mjr7531
    Mjr7531 Posts: 856
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    my wife tells me 1000x a day not to exagerate so much
    I love the Irony...

    I want to hear good things about the RTi12s, I'm savin' to buy them... :)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2004
    I liked them, and if I bought anything in the new RTi line, it would be the RTi12's.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2004
    I've had a pair for a while now and don't really have any complaints about them. They can be a bit on the bright side as was noted above, but that's when I'm blasting the music at near ear piercing levels. I also don't have the grilles on, which could make a little bit of a difference.

    I'm only running them off of my B&K AVR 307 (150 wpc) and feel that they're doing just fine. The only reason that I'd look for something bigger amp-wise is if some stupid deal was just slapping me in the face.

    More power would be fine, but there's nothing wrong with them as is, and until that stupid deal arrives, they'll be just fine as they are.....
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by brettw22
    I've had a pair for a while now and don't really have any complaints about them.

    Show pics!
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2004
    Have had our 12's for about 3 months now,they are just starting to "open up" I also picked up an CSi5 center...the brightness is in the new tweeters...to"me",what seems bright to some,is actually a more detailed sound compared to our former RTi70's and CSI40...

    I just picked up an Adcom 5503 (3x200) to power the 12's and the 5...big improvement on detail and sound quality...I like the 12's for HT and for 2-channel listening,but I have never done an in-home demo with the LSI series...so I can't give you a good comparison.

    I picked up the 12's when C.C. was closing out the RTI Series at a big discount,If I were to pay close to retail I would had opted for the LSI 15's...

    Best advice I can give is try to hear a pair first,would I buy them again? Yes,without a doubt...
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  • 2+2
    2+2 Posts: 546
    edited December 2004
    I own LSi 15s but was seriously considering the 12s. They sound pretty darn good IMO. They were only $100 or so less than the 15s which I think sounds a bit smoother...if you know what I mean. I think it would make a great HT speakers and loud, rock music speakers. They did pretty good with classical but was, again, not as smooth....

    If RTi is Reference Theater, what is LSi? Pardon the ignorance....
    System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300

    System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES

    System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps

    System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    'less smooth'? :p
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by landry_p2000
    Show pics!
    When I have enough time in town to actually do the cleaning in my place that is really needed, I will do so.
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  • 2+2
    2+2 Posts: 546
    edited December 2004
    audiobliss....that's pretty clever man.... :)
    System 1: Martin Logan Vantage, Rotel RC 1070, B&K Reference 200.2, Music Hall DAC 15.2, Yamaha 2300

    System 2: LSi15 w/db840, Marantz SR8400, Rotel 1080, RM6800 (C&S), Sony X2020ES

    System 3: LSi7, Yamaha SW215, Music Hall Maven, Music Hall MMF CD25 w/627opamps

    System 4: RTi100, Harman Kardon AVR 230, Panasonic DVD
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2004
    Here is a pic of our modest set-up,I like the Black/Silver combo,it matches the lines of the Hitachi...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Man that is a clean looking HT!

    Nice!

    Awesome work!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2004
    Well...Thank you!!!
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    sweet HT.....are those 12s?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by audiobliss
    sweet HT.....are those 12s?
    Yes.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    like I said.....sweet....lol
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
    In Use
    PS3, Yamaha CDR-HD1300, Plex, Amazon Fire TV Gen 2
    Pioneer Elite VSX-52, Parasound HCA-1000A
    Klipsch RF-82ii, RC-62ii, RS-42ii, RW-10d
    Epson 8700UB
    In Storage
    [Home Audio]
    Rotel RCD-02, Yamaha KX-W900U, Sony ST-S500ES, Denon DP-7F
    Pro-Ject Phono Box MKII, Parasound P/HP-850, ASL Wave 20 monoblocks
    Klipsch RF-35, RB-51ii
    [Car Audio]
    Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP, Memphis 16-MCA3004, Boston Acoustic RC520
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited December 2004
    Have you messed with toe-in?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited December 2004
    Mike, our home theaters are freakishly similar!

    I have the RTi12's, CSi5, FXi5's (instead of 500's), Hitachi 51" (instead of 57"), and SVS CS-Ultra (instead of PC-Ultra).
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2004
    Tre,Yes I have adjusted the speak placement...the imaging of the 12"s is VERY good...I still have have to check the AVR to see if I have it set to 5-channel or 2-channel stereo...

    Fireshoes,What can I say man...Great minds think alike!!!
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2004
    Nice set-up Mike!:cool:
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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