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  • keith allen
    keith allen Posts: 734
    edited December 2004
    This movie is awful,nothing short of awful...little chinaman,chinawoman flyin through the air over the trees,on rooftops...I dont get it.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited December 2004
    Some people think the Mona Lisa should smile...







    Not everyone has an open enough of a mind to understand different forms of art.
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  • begbie
    begbie Posts: 630
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by keith allen
    This movie is awful,nothing short of awful...little chinaman,chinawoman flyin through the air over the trees,on rooftops...I dont get it.


    It's called "Wuxia" , the stuff of George Lucas's dreams.

    Anyways....that's where one must suspend their disbelief and just let the movie take over you ! :)
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  • keith allen
    keith allen Posts: 734
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Toxis
    Some people think the Mona Lisa should smile...







    Not everyone has an open enough of a mind to understand different forms of art.

    Art?...its a movie...and I like art ,I have a picture of aaaaa,looks like a giant ant hill in the middle of the desert,openmind,got that too,I was very open to my wife kissing and um,well you know our lusious neighbor lady up the street:D ooops,did I say that:p
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by begbie
    It's called "Wuxia" , the stuff of George Lucas's dreams.

    Anyways....that's where one must suspend their disbelief and just let the movie take over you ! :)

    Being originally from Hong Kong, I grew up watching stuff like "Hero" on TV and movies. I actually think the Jedi knights in the Star Wars movies was heavily influenced by Chinese martial arts period films.

    Wuxia....isn't that just Chinese for martial arts? Jet Li was the national champion of China in Wuxia before he became an actor. He's the legit deal, whereas Jackie Chan is just an action actor.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Toxis

    Not everyone has an open enough of a mind to understand different forms of art.

    Is your mind open enough that if I crap on a plate and call it art you would appreciate and understand it? ;)
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  • kingtut
    kingtut Posts: 813
    edited December 2004
    I thought wushu means martial arts, but what do I know.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited December 2004
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited December 2004
    Just got the DVD for Christmas.

    Mandarin DTS soundstrack is great, very dynamic, and a few fun bass notes. It may be slightly overcooked though. Liked the surround water droplets.

    Picture Quality = yuck :( The bit rate must suck on the Miramax release.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2004
    I really liked the visuals and the sound, but Jet Li was horrible in this movie.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    but Jet Li was horrible in this movie.
    Are you kidding? That's exactly how they wanted the character to be. You have to be very clear minded and emotionless to be an assassin.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2004
    Originally posted by Toxis
    Are you kidding? That's exactly how they wanted the character to be. You have to be very clear minded and emotionless to be an assassin.

    No, I'm not kidding at all. I actually discussed this with a Mark Metcalf (Animal House, Buffy, Seinfeld...and many many other movies and plays) at his resturaunt (Libby Montanas) here in Wisconsin. He was very unimpressed with his acting and rather didn't see the point of him in this movie at all. I tend to agree with him very much. I know it's a personal opinion of mine, but I'm glad a thespian agrees.
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  • begbie
    begbie Posts: 630
    edited December 2004
    Jet Li did a very good job playing the emotionless assassin. Look at the aftermath of the lake fight - the character couldn't even shed a tear !
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2004
    I haven't seen all of it, but I thought he did a great job, too.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited December 2004
    Jet Li is a badass. At a towering 5'6" he has won the Chinese Wushu national championship five times. He was making movies in China for a long time before showing up over here in Lethal Weapon 4.

    Yeah the whole "QT Presents" seems like a joke. Maybe Miramax thought it would sell better that way.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2004
    I thought Li did a great job, very enjoyable on screen. One of his best I thought, his others movies I haven't been too fond of. This is the first movie of his that I actually bought.
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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited December 2004
    As a side note, Jet Li survived the tsunamis that hit the Maldives.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2004
    Once again...I never said he was a bad actor...I just didn't think he was very good in this role. My apologies. :(
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited December 2004
    He kicked that Tsunami's butt!
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2005
    I saw the movie and thought it was a bit odd. I felt like I was watching each scene 2-3 times because of the way they played it out.

    The cinematography was beautiful, but the story line felt like they were holding stuff back.......

    OH, and wtf was the "fighting in our heads" crap.......that was probably the most odd.
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  • begbie
    begbie Posts: 630
    edited January 2005
    Originally posted by brettw22

    OH, and wtf was the "fighting in our heads" crap.......that was probably the most odd.

    Concept is no different from "entering the MATRIX" !

    Give it a second viewing or two. There's many layers of meanings throughout. Than again this movie may not be your cup of tea.....
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2005
    Anyone know which release of this movie has the best PQ, and where to get it? I was so disapointed by the US Miramax release.

    Or will we see a "Superbit Version"?
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2005
    Originally posted by begbie
    Concept is no different from "entering the MATRIX" !
    Except that Matrix was a futuristic movie where the matrix was virtually the entire setting of the movie and the fight to overcome it.

    The times in Hero it was a few people fighting, then 2 standing there battling in their heads while they stand there, then snap outta it and actually go back to really fighting. It wasn't fluent IMO.

    I've give it another watch, but that part really doesn't make sense to me.....
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited January 2005
    Originally posted by brettw22
    Except that Matrix was a futuristic movie where the matrix was virtually the entire setting of the movie and the fight to overcome it.

    The times in Hero it was a few people fighting, then 2 standing there battling in their heads while they stand there, then snap outta it and actually go back to really fighting. It wasn't fluent IMO.

    I've give it another watch, but that part really doesn't make sense to me.....

    I might be totally missing something here, but to me, the whole fighting in the head thing was just like two chess masters playing chess. they stare at the board for hours sometimes before they make just 1 move. I kind of found that to be similar.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2005
    I wouldn't call chess life & death.
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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited January 2005
    Movies like these, it's more of an art form display or visual eye candy with a story mixed in undernearth. There's also a difference when a movie in shot in China compared with Hong Kong or Taiwan, it's hard to describe...maybe someone else can fill in the words for me :)
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  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited January 2005
    to me it seems like alot of Americans have a very selective suspension of disbelief.

    the general audience will watch movies like X-Men, Spiderman, James Bond flicks, or any pure American "action" movie where the main character gets through a myriad of impossible situations without even batting an eye. but for some reason, when they see someone flying through the air in a foreign flick like this one, the movie is immediately deemed crappy. i just don't get it. why do people believe in fantasies only in their native language?
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited January 2005
    We Americans are just like school in the summer..... No Class! ;)
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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited January 2005
    A lack of imagination perhaps? :)

    Deprived childhoods...who knows
    Their loss
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2005
    WTF.....:rolleyes:
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