SVS PB2 ISD & Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Subwoofers Reviews

kingtut
kingtut Posts: 813
Audioholics write up glowing reviews for both of the above subs. Here's the link:

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/loudspeakers/SVS_subsPB2-ISD_OutlawLFM-1_1.php

Enjoy!:)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2004
    I would imagine that the Outlaw sub works pretty good, beings HSU is the manufacturer....isn't that the case? Dr. Spec?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • pjdami
    pjdami Posts: 1,894
    edited July 2004
    Very cool link. Pretty much confirms my thoughts on both Hsu and SVS. Yes, I do believe Doc mentioned that the Outlaw sub is similar to the STF-3. Same driver I believe?

    I like the way they state that both subs excel at music and HT. Excellent.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited July 2004
    Dr. HSU helped design the LFM-1

    I am sure it is killer....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited July 2004
    I heard the Outlaw sub go.It's really nice for the price.It does a very nice job.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited July 2004
    Nice write-up on both subs.

    The LFM-1 is an STF-3 in nicer clothes; there is no difference in performance between the two.

    I also gave the STF-3 high scores in my review of it against the PB1-ISD; it's a good sub. It doesn't have the deep extension of the SVS products (apparent from the FR chart and corroborated by my own testing), but otherwise it's a very decent piece.

    If he thinks the PB2-ISD is a bruiser, he should hear the Plus or the Ultra - wowser! Also notice the high scores he gave both subs for 2-channel music. The notion that a sub can't be good for both music and HT is bunk. SVS blows that dimwit theory right into the weeds.
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
  • kingtut
    kingtut Posts: 813
    edited July 2004
    I agree w/Dr Spec. An audiophile friend had the PB2 plus (what a beast in size and volume), but it was too over-whelming in his small room. He is a two channel music purist, and he felt that the PB2 plus was too powerful for his B&W speakers and his small room. He spoke w/Ron at SVS and attempted to calibrate his sub, but he ended up selling the sub. I was short on funds, and the SAF (too huge) prevented me from purchase the PB2 plus from him.
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited July 2004
    What an excellent review. It was a pleasure to read as well. I would pay serious dollars to be able to write that well.

    I liked the part about playing the movie for his friend, then asking if he wanted to see it again with the sub on. :D I've been there before.
  • saguppy
    saguppy Posts: 44
    edited July 2004
    I bought the PB2-isd subwoofer that was used by Clint in this review. Just went to pick it up last weekend. He gave me a short demo with it in his system, but it didn't take much before I said, 'sounds good, lets load it up' so that I could go home and play with it. He played the Outlaw subwoofer (which was sitting right next to it) in the same system for the same scenes of LOTR and indeed it was impressive even compared to the SVS.

    Personally I did not like the appearance of the outlaw sub, the cover was made of a plastic and seemed cheap to me. It was also obvious that the SVS had more capability than the outlaw (in playing at greater volumes) than we tested in our short demo time. After reading the raves of other enthusiasts (both in this forum and elsewhere) about SVS subwoofers, I am sure my opinion is somewhat subjective, because I was drooling from the time I saw the ad to buy the pb2-isd up until I got it home, but I am definitely happy with my purchase.

    Up until this point I have owned a PSW450 then a PSW650 and was never satisfied with the musical ability/output of either. I am a college student, so of course listening to hard rock, r&b, and some rap can put a lot of demand on the lower end. To demonstrate the svs' capabilities for music Clint pulled out an Eagles dts cd (not comparable to some of my other music I know) during our demo but I was really blown away at how well the svs integrated with the tracks. Currently I am away from my apartment at school and only have a small bookshelf setup here for the summer that I am able to use to test my new sub:(

    After carrying this huge sub down his stairs and up two more flights to my own apartment, I can officially say that it is heavy. Clint told me before I bought the sub that he would have kept it if it did not take up so much space in his living room:) The sub does, however, fit boxed in the back of my grand cherokee, thank goodness or else I would not have gotten it home. I was very grateful to Clint for allowing me to demo the subwoofer before my purchase and also for a brief tutoring lesson on calibration techniques and how/why to change the 'tuning ?' of the svs. He seemed to be a great guy, with a lot of expensive equipment to test, and I greatly envied his job:)
  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited July 2004
    Currently I am away from my apartment at school and only have a small bookshelf setup here for the summer that I am able to use to test my new sub
    Heee!!! Heeee!!!!:D
    Congrats on your purchase - what did it set you back??
    PB2's are alot of fun!!!!
  • saguppy
    saguppy Posts: 44
    edited July 2004
    Thanks, I picked it up for $700. And yeah, I'd say 'Fun' is a good word for it.
  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited July 2004
    Wow - cool tie-in on that review.

    Posting the same over at HTF would be neat; there's a pretty good thread going there on the same subject.

    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204160
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS