Monitor 5 mismatched drivers?

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5370H55V
5370H55V Posts: 5
edited July 11 in Vintage Speakers
Hi all,

I recently purchased a pair of Monitor 5's and had originally intended on redoing the crossovers and gluing the speaker magnets. However, I noticed one of the drivers appears to have been replaced at some point, and the capacitance values on the crossover differs from the side I assume is all original (34uF on the replacement and 27uF on the original). The binding post also seems to be sourced from a monitor 7b instead. The sticker identifies both as MW6500 drivers, but I would like to ask if there would be any issues using them or if I would be better off sourcing a matching driver to replace it? Which capacitor values should I follow for the XO's?
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  • 5370H55V
    5370H55V Posts: 5
    edited July 11
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    My last few images didn't show for some reason.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 27,645
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    Yep, pretty obvious that you have an A and B model. The mw6500 did however come in a black and silver basket so there is that. Now you just need to decide which XO upgrade you want to do.
  • 5370H55V
    5370H55V Posts: 5
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    Thank you for your help so far. I was under the impression that both cabinets look to be a 5A model since they have peerless tweeters and lack the beveled front edge, is that not the case? And I assume there shouldn't be any audible differences between the two MW6500 drivers if I do a crossover upgrade with the same values for both?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,200
    edited July 12
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    Remove the paper ring off the silver driver, paint the silver basket face black and presto matching drivers.

    Schematics are posted in the Crossover Schematics section.

    The slotted screws on the binding post plates are not original.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,978
    edited July 12
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    Wondering why one identifies as a 7B. Is it possible that someone swapped crossovers/binding posts? That could explain the different capacitance readings.
  • slow_polk7
    slow_polk7 Posts: 63
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    Capacitors should be 34uF and 12uF
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,200
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    Those black and red Temple caps are HORRIBLE!
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  • 5370H55V
    5370H55V Posts: 5
    edited July 12
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    Wondering why one identifies as a 7B. Is it possible that someone swapped crossovers/binding posts? That could explain the different capacitance readings.

    That was my thought as well. From what F1nut said about the slotted screws not being original, I'm guessing that the 5A speaker had work done on it as well since two of the screws were replaced.
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    Capacitors should be 34uF and 12uF

    Strangely enough, both crossovers have different values for both the caps and resistors, and none of them match your example. Top one (from the 7B) has a mystery white cap and 34uF, bottom (from the 5A) has 12 and 27uF:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,200
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    The values on the bottom crossover pic are correct for the 5A.

    The mystery white cap is 12uF mylar. The inductor values are likely to be different between the 5A and 7B. Look for a 5A crossover on eBay.

    Edit: here you go...
    https://ebay.io/m/GaI8KS
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 27,645
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    That didn't take long, SOLD
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,200
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    That didn't take long, SOLD
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    A guy needs what he needs ๐Ÿ‘
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  • 5370H55V
    5370H55V Posts: 5
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    F1nut wrote: ยป
    The values on the bottom crossover pic are correct for the 5A.

    The mystery white cap is 12uF mylar. The inductor values are likely to be different between the 5A and 7B. Look for a 5A crossover on eBay.

    Edit: here you go...
    https://ebay.io/m/GaI8KS

    Perfect, thank you for your help. Looking at the images the crossovers do have a big old "5" and a "7" on them, which makes a lot more sense in hindsight. Simplest explanation is someone probably swapped in the driver, crossover, and binding post from a 7 into the 5.

    Purchased the replacement crossover you linked and shopping for replacement components for the recap right now. ๐Ÿ‘

  • F1nut
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    Get some Clarity CSA caps and Mills-Vishay resistors. You'll thank me later.
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