Home Theater Projectors

arufener
arufener Posts: 63
edited July 2004 in Electronics
This summer I was planning on working a bit extra to get a modest HD widescreen TV for under 800, but I have been informed that I will be able to get a very nice TV. Our family really likes projectors, and want to get one. We want a HD compatible projector with a electric screen. We really don't want to pay more than $2000 - $2500. I don't have a clue about projectors. Can anyone help me out? I need to find some good projectors, and places that has good deals.

Thanks
Arufener
Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited July 2004
    Not to redirect you, but go visit www.avsforum.com. On the top cilck on Forums - AVS Forum and from there check out the $3500 and under projector board, along with the Screens board. You will thank me later. LOTS of intelligent people there.

    I'm running an Infocus X1 DLP projector I got for $800 new after rebate and it looks as good as my $2500 53" Hitachi HDTV, watching HDTV material. I'm running it on a 73" 16:9 screen and it's unreal.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2004
    Thought I spotted a projector for sale in the Flea market...?
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited July 2004
    www.projectorpeople.com

    www.projectorcentral.com

    I've read a lot of good things about the Infocus X1 and the BenQ 6100, I believe Infocus has a new one coming out for aroun $1400 that is supposed to be fantastic. I wish I could buy a projector...
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited July 2004
    I want to eventually get a projector as well. Up to this point in my research, I have heard and read a LOT of good things about the SANYO PLV-Z2. $1,800 at projectorpeople.com.
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited July 2004
    How somebody who has a Hitachi 53' HTDV set can compare it to an $800 projector is beyond me. I have yet to see a projector under $5K canadian that can hold its own with a RPTV ISF calibrated TV.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    Rear projection TV's picture quality suck. DLP is pretty good, but regular rear projection HDTV's are a bunch of crap. CRT's are way better than rear projection, and front projection is just as good if not better than rear if you buy the right stuff.


    Thanks everyone for their input, I will be checking out those sites and projectors.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by arufener
    Rear projection TV's picture quality suck. DLP is pretty good, but regular rear projection HDTV's are a bunch of crap. CRT's are way better than rear projection, and front projection is just as good if not better than rear if you buy the right stuff.


    Thanks everyone for their input, I will be checking out those sites and projectors.

    With opinions like those, who needs advice anyways.
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  • MikeDel
    MikeDel Posts: 15
    edited July 2004
    I guess I should trade in my 4,000.00 Sony 60" LCD for a Dumont.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    yep
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • MikeDel
    MikeDel Posts: 15
    edited July 2004
    School's out, no wonder why.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    get a job
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited July 2004
    Ok ok, the X1 doens't look AS GOOD as my 53" Hitachi, but with the WOW factor it does, seriously.

    arufener, you have no idea what you're talking about. CRT rear projection televisions are THE BEST picture money can buy, hands down. NO DLP or LCD (garbage) HDTV can touch them.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by Mazeroth
    Ok ok, the X1 doens't look AS GOOD as my 53" Hitachi, but with the WOW factor it does, seriously.

    arufener, you have no idea what you're talking about. CRT rear projection televisions are THE BEST picture money can buy, hands down. NO DLP or LCD (garbage) HDTV can touch them.
    Yes - I love front projection the screen size is what it is all about.
    My new rear projection CRT - nothing can touch the PQ on my new baby.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    Mazeroth you need to read a little carefully, because I did say that CRT's are the best picture quality you can get. The sony XPR is one of the best CRT's available. But they can only go to a certain size and still be managable, thats where front projection comes in.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2004
    arufener......if you're going to ask advice from people, then let them give it without acting like an **** when they give it.

    You didn't say rear projection CRT was best, you said:
    Rear projection TV's picture quality suck. DLP is pretty good, but regular rear projection HDTV's are a bunch of crap. CRT's are way better than rear projection, and front projection is just as good if not better than rear if you buy the right stuff.
    That's a bit different.....

    Good luck on your search........and relax.......
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    do they make front projection CRT's?
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2004
    Yes......let the learning begin
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by arufener
    do they make front projection CRT's?
    Yes and they start out at about 50K to 250K (used much cheaper) and they weigh a ton.............
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    really? I was just kiddin
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited July 2004
    "DLP is pretty good, but regular rear projection HDTV's are a bunch of crap. CRT's are way better than rear projection"

    "Mazeroth you need to read a little carefully, because I did say that CRT's are the best picture quality you can get. The sony XPR is one of the best CRT's available. But they can only go to a certain size and still be managable, thats where front projection comes in."

    arufener, you have NO idea what you're talking about. Regular rear projection HDTVs ARE CRT televisions. Number 2, it's XBR, not XPR. AND number 3 Sony doesn't make an XBR CRT television! You went 0 for 3 on that one.

    Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.


    :D
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited July 2004
    arufener, you have NO idea what you're talking about.
    Understatement of the year. - Clueless!!! :rolleyes:
    Making an A$$ of yourself on the internet - PRICELESS!!!:D
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by Mazeroth

    arufener, you have NO idea what you're talking about. Regular rear projection HDTVs ARE CRT televisions. Number 2, it's XBR, not XPR. AND number 3 Sony doesn't make an XBR CRT television! You went 0 for 3 on that one.
    :D [/B]

    I beg to differ. 1) Standard Flat Screen CRT HDTV's use the "tube" Technology to display the imagle. Rear projection TV's may use a CRT in them, but they are completely different methodes. 2)Sorry for the typo. 3) Yes they do, CLICK HERE to see multiple "regular (CRT) XBR HD televisions.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited July 2004
    I'm not even going to reply to the last post. Go read for a few hours then come back when you're more knowledgable.
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited July 2004
    ok i just upgraded to benq 8700+ with a 115 in screen and it looks as good as my 65 in mits and it is like almost twive the size and with 4 allmost times the screen area
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2004
    Quick education Aruf: CRT stands for... :rolleyes:

    You guys really are too funny...


    A heads up:
    The fast ramp of the HD3 DLP chip should push down the costs across the board for the PJ's, regardless of tech. This should really hit sometime in the next three months, so if you can wait, you'll probably have a lot more options for less money.

    Legal Disclaimer: I didn't give out any proprietary info, I already confirmed that you can find it all online... ;)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by Mazeroth
    I'm not even going to reply to the last post. Go read for a few hours then come back when you're more knowledgable.

    I did, I read for like 2 hours last night. Then I asked a friend of mine who is a electrical engineer major. A rear projection uses a smaller CRT or LCD, and now DLP to project the image. Its sort of like a front projection...except inside a TV (that’s why they call it rear projection.) A CRT or "tube" is a completely different method. If they were they same, wouldn't they look the same. Take for example upstairs in my house we a have a 36" CRT TV, not HD, not flat. Our neighbor has a 55" Mitsubishi TV Not HD. Besides size, their is an obvious difference. If rear projection TV's are CRT's, then why is their such an obvious difference.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2004
    What year of EE? The guys a moron if he thinks the underlying tech is different... An example: What's the difference between a Pentium 4 2.0 ghz and a pentium 4 3.4 ghz EE???

    A hint:
    One is just an upgrade of the older tech, both still grounded on the same fundemental setup... Same things with CRT's...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    Besides the fact that they both use a CRT, they are different.

    and he's already graduated. I also asked my bro whos a mechanical engineer, but he doesn't have much to do with TV's
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by arufener
    Besides the fact that they both use a CRT, they are different.

    Glad you are finally admitting it.

    Just an FYI, I work for a company making these types of things, have an EE and ME background, have a masters and PhD and I am still learning from some of the people from these types of boards about stuff I work with everyday. I certainly wouldn't ever want to go head to head with some of the experts unless it was about "my" product. You might do a bit better to rail in your comments just a bit and learn about what some of them have to say.

    If you really want to learn a lot about this stuff, check out the AVS forums. That's where the PJ/TV "Yoda's" hang out.
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    I can see your point that they both USE a CRT, but they are completely different methods. You can't say a rear projection is a CRT. A rear projection doesn't nessisarily have to have a CRT, it can use an LCD, or DLP to project the image.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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