Velo SPL1200R bit the dust.

pearsall001
pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
It served me well for 14yrs so no complaints here. On the hunt for a new sub. I like the REL HT 1205 MKII to work in unison with my dual T7x's. Open to other suggestions, looking to stay in the sub (no pun intended) $1,000 range. Room is 13x30 (390 SQ ft)
"2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.

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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    I believe @msg has a POC for Velodyne service. Could be a quick/easy fix to get it back up and running.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    Yeah I agree to repair
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,994
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I believe @msg has a POC for Velodyne service. Could be a quick/easy fix to get it back up and running.
    Yeah, in my case, I just contacted Velodyne directly, in Germany.

    Not exactly cheap, but still very much worth it. Shipping on the in-rush board I need is 150% the cost of the part. I think it's just a bad relay, but I've been unable to find a match. Shame, because the cost is around $2 - $25 for similar relays :D

    Now that Jesse mentioned that NJ resource, it does make me wonder whether there's a more cost effective alternative without sacrificing quality. I don't recall even considering looking around otherwise once I gave up on finding the relay, and just went straight to Velodyne.

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    I thought about going the repair route but I think I'm more inclined to a new purchase. I've been looking at the REL HT 1205 MKII or the HT 1500 Predator II along with a few others. Still undecided.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    Have you heard any of your choices yet? Subs are (IMO) very personal.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,476
    F1nut wrote: »

    I’ve used these folks for a repair on my DD12 (I do NOT work on plate amps) about 3 years ago. Very reasonable and fairly quick. I would definitely use them again.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Have you heard any of your choices yet? Subs are (IMO) very personal.

    Tom

    Just my current listening experience with the dual T7x's for both music & HT. And I must say that their performance in both venues has been extremely pleasing.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    Eh, if I were you (and obviously I am not)....

    I would get the sub repaired. You don't need to ship the sub, just the amp plate. While still heavy (and you will need to pack it very well), it won't break the bank.

    You don't want to break your comment...."extremely pleasing". Changing up a foundation of your system could possibly throw it into a whirlwind in trying to get back to "extremely pleasing".

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 1,876
    I think (?) he’s saying his newer RELs are the “extremely pleasing” ones.

    Therefore, my vote is a new REL, especially if you are saying you will use it at the same time (“in unison”) with your T/7xs?

    You know what you experienced moving to the RELs for music …

    Brian

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    bcwsrt wrote: »
    I think (?) he’s saying his newer RELs are the “extremely pleasing” ones.

    Therefore, my vote is a new REL, especially if you are saying you will use it at the same time (“in unison”) with your T/7xs?

    You know what you experienced moving to the RELs for music …

    Bingo! Nothing at all wrong with the Velo but after 14yrs of service it's time to put it out to pasture. Now on the other hand the dual T7x's have performed well above my expectations for both music & HT & adding another REL is the way to go to suit my needs.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    https://www.rythmikaudio.com/products.html

    Once you go sealed servo you don't go back.
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    Clipdat wrote: »
    https://www.rythmikaudio.com/products.html

    Once you go sealed servo you don't go back.

    I definitely gave them a serious look along with other brands but I wanted to keep things in the same family & ordered a REL HT 1205 MKll. REL was fantastic to work with & we went over a lot of different options & with my current set up the HT 1205 was the way to go for now. Although the S510 is certainly a possibility down the road.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    Phil, maybe I'm missing something, but you already have 2 REL subs, so why a 3rd?
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,994
    Yeah, Phil, why?
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    F1nut wrote: »
    Phil, maybe I'm missing something, but you already have 2 REL subs, so why a 3rd?

    Well he's going to need 30 more to keep up with Trey....



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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    I believe the current accepted number is 64
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,994
    Lol
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    The irony being I don't run a subwoofer in 2 channel lol
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,043
    VR3 wrote: »
    I believe the current accepted number is 64

    Don't get me involved in this!!!!!
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    F1nut wrote: »
    Phil, maybe I'm missing something, but you already have 2 REL subs, so why a 3rd?

    You are correct Jesse I picked up the two REL T7x's back in Nov to pair w/ the Maggie 1.71"s. At that time I only used them for 2 channel listening & the Velo SPL 1200R handled the HT side of things & did a marvelous job. I really wasn't aware of their dual purpose for both music & HT until about 2 months ago. I did a lot of reading on the REL site & they have some great how to videos & that's where I learned about their HT capabilities.

    REL does things differently than the others when it comes to HT. First off they want the front L/R set to large (and any channel that you are running one of their subs with) so the subs receive full range signals from the LFE input & also the full range hi-level signal from the 2 channel amp. Now this is where it gets interesting there is no XO on the sub for LFE, only gain. They want the full signal so their internal filters can handle that. The hi-level has XO, gain & completely different filters. Now the subs are ready for music & HT at the same time. I re-ran the YPAO on the Yammie AVR (you have to disconnect the hi-level & only run it with the LFE signal) when you run DSP software.

    I checked the sub levels & bumped them up a tad to 76-78 dB. Now the Velo was still with me at this time & man oh man what a difference. The T7's really performed along w/ the Velo. The front sound stage is massive, dialog is crisp, clear & dead center. So when playing a movie & the LFE isn't really active it picks up the full range signal from the amp & doesn't skip a beat. Soundtracks are unbelievable. There is so much more coming from the REL subs than just LFE to create a whole new dimension.

    Then the Velo dies on me & I'm bummed but let me tell you the T7's all by themselves really surprised me. They are rated at 30Hz so they won't kick you in the gut but definitely do rattle some of the fixtures. So to round out the bottom end & after many discussions w/ REL the HT1205 seemed like a perfect fit to bring the bottom end slam. During those discussions REL always said the the T7's are the perfect fit for the 1.7i's. I was thinking about the S510 but was told with the dual T7's the HT1205 would be the perfect compliment. This saves me some $$$ also which I like.

    Some guys run multiple subs for all channels for what REL calls HT 3D. I don't think I'll ever go that far but you never know. For now I think my new HT1205 addition will keep me happy for quite some time.

    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,190
    edited July 4
    Ok,
    Sorry Phil your Velodyne died. The SPL series subwoofer where great subs and IF you're gonna kick it to the curb, Let me know I'll come get it and get it repaired. I think it's worth fixing. Hell one of my DD10 Plus subwoofer amps is acting up so I would also take it's plate amp to that repair shop. It's not that far from us actually.

    Anyway I'm glad you're dining the REL brand.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    Hey Dan,

    Give me a call when you get a chance. I have something else for you.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.