Has anyone tried two pairs of front speakers? Does it produce a fuller sound stage?
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It sounds good, but not as good as four pairs of fronts.
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He's joking. You might experience a bigger sound but at the expense of lobing.
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16 for the win
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One pair of speakers stacked on another pair of speakers stacked a pair of subs is da bomb.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Back in the very early days, Harry Pearson (HP) had good things to say about double Advent speakers.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Why stop there… just build a wall of sound, and crank it to 11.
BITD, we tried something like that with 3 sets of speakers. This was the last day of one of the very early Carverfest's . We took a pair of ALIII's, a pair of Platinum's and a pair of Amazing's and put them all on one system.
We always did crazy stuff up on the mountain, just for fun. We called this one, "The Wall of Sound". It sounded like crap but it was definitely an experience. It reminded me of being at a concert. I believe it was the next year, we took 2 sets of 1.2TL's and stacked one pair up on top of the other, then went to listen to it up on the 2nd story loft. I can't seem to find a photo of that one, as the forum it was originally posted on has since closed up shop.
One of the funniest things we did was fool people with a pair of Apogees. We disabled the ribbon portion of the speaker and placed a pair of bookies (I believe that they were DCM Time Windows) in their place, but placed behind the grill cloth and on top of the woofer assembly of the Apogee's. We locked the front sliding door, so people couldn't really see what we had done. When they came in, we sat them down and asked them how they liked the Apogee's.
I think it took about 4 or 5 hours of listening like this before someone figured out what we had done. 😀 Good times! (It actually didn't sound that bad)
Tom
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I couldn't fathom the load those put on what ever amp you used..... BUT I'm sure it was low
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I believe that was Gary's (@TNRabbit....RIP, buddy) Sunfire 600x7 amp. The rest of the system was cobbled together from all of the attendees of the event.
Yes, the load was very demanding. That said, it did handle it without breaking a sweat.
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Stacked fronts? I've had a few. Here's a Mcintosh ml1c sitting atop a Bozak Concert Grand. Sadly or maybe just as well I can't find the pic of my old 2.3s sitting atop a pair klh 12's.
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I'm basically looking to put two lsi15's on each side of the tv.
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It's probably fine as long as you don't critically listen- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I believe the Lsi15 is 4 ohm nominal so I would run them in series- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I believe the Lsi15 is 4 ohm nominal so I would run them in series
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If you run parallel it will be 2 ohm nominal and not many amps can pull that off- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Here's a better idea, don't do it at all.
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I mean sure but atleast this way he won't blow anything up haha- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Yamaha receivers used to have a setting for "width" speakers up front, before height speakers became a thing, but those weren't intended to be full range.
They may still have that option in new models but I haven't kept track of them for a while. I understand Dolby Atmos processing also has settings for front width satellite speakers but again they don't need to be full range and the processor handles setup to minimize audible interference.
I'd much rather use the extra space up front for dual subwoofers. Seems to me that having two sets of main speakers up front would mainly be correcting for a single set of main speakers not performing very well to begin with. Stereo speakers should produce a good impression of width if they're properly set up.Post edited by Emlyn on -
motorstereo wrote: »Stacked fronts? I've had a few. Here's a Mcintosh ml1c sitting atop a Bozak Concert Grand. Sadly or maybe just as well I can't find the pic of my old 2.3s sitting atop a pair klh 12's.
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You might like it at first but mark my words. The initial romance period will not last long and you will not like the sound after a while.
Comb filtering and acoustical lobing will make the sound almost unbearable in the long term.
Imaging will be non-existent and smearing of images will be really exagerrated. Even spatial locationality cues will shift, when they are not supposed too.
This is just the plain, honest truth of what you will eventually learn, if you do this.
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bi anp and subs on sub freq out. way better sound and stability.
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Some people used to stack apogee speakers
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OK.
ahem.Back in the very early days, Harry Pearson (HP) had good things to say about double Advent speakers.
In the 1970s, it was kind of a thing.
The OLAs were/are, at least IMO, deeply flawed loudspeakers.
So there's that.Stacks on stacks on stacks.lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_downOne pair of speakers stacked on another pair of speakers stacked a pair of subs is da bomb.
Go big or go home.
Stacked Ohm Walsh F. Sort of like MBLs, but more likely to do major damage when they topple. Cheaper, though.
Mark Levinson's HQD loudspeakers. Looks like two stacked pairs of Quad ESL-57s? Bingo.
Oh, where were we?
"Two pairs of front loudspeakers...?"
Two words, Benjamin.
Just.
Don't.
Any Questions?
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