New to the Forum & pending L800 Owner

kevinB66
kevinB66 Posts: 3
Greetings and thank you for going easy on me with my first post. I am not a newbie when it comes to both modern and vintage audio but I always have more to learn.

I may already know the answer to my question, but I will risk ridicule and ask anyway.

My audio room is small; 12”x12”. I really have my heart set on the L800s. I know Polk recommends at least 3’ from the speakers to the side wall.

Can I get away with using the L800 if I install sound absorption panels to reduce reflections?

I’m running a Musical Fidelity M6 Preamp and Power Amp.

Appreciate you letting me post here and for putting up with a Polk Newbie.

PS, if the SDA is impacted, does that mean the L800s will sound awful?

Regards,

Kevin

Comments

  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,523
    Welcome!

    The L800s would still work but the impact of the dimensional arrays at the ears wouldn't be ideal. Each speaker is 18 inches wide so a pair fills 3 feet of front wall space. If the speakers are placed 6 feet apart the amount of space from the speakers to the side walls would be 1.5 feet. You may be able to have the speakers 5 feet apart to leave 2 feet to each side wall. Polk recommends the speakers be 6 to 8 feet apart as optimum but 5 feet would be acceptable but that affects how far away you should sit from them.

    Acoustic panels on the side walls may help some.

    The L800s are unique in the audio world but for some situations the L600s are a better choice.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,547
    While you have some good gear, to sound their best speakers need room to breathe. You may not get their full potential in that room .
  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 1,915
    You came to the right place. These guys will give you the best, easy-to-understand advice. We were all newbies, once.

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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    My first thought is that the bass and mass of the speakers is going to overwhelm that size room, therefore the L600's might be a better fit.
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  • kevinB66
    kevinB66 Posts: 3
    Thank you to all for the advice. I have some thinking to do.

    Appreciate the feedback.
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,207
    I’ve never had the privilege of hearing the L800, but just from experience with different speakers I’d have to think they would be a bit much for that sized room.

    I used to think “buy the biggest, baddest speakers you can afford”, but now I realize that’s not very good advice. My end game speakers are Rosso Volterra’s, but I’ll never own them in my current music room as it’s just not big enough.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,443
    edited April 21
    My L800’s are on the long wall of a 19’6”x15’ space. They perform very well in my room, but I do agree with the others. A 12x12 room is not going to be a friendly environment for them. That said, if you are planning at some point in the near term to move them to a larger space, you could get them and run them without the SDA link. They will still sound excellent and then you can take advantage of the full feature set when you get a larger space.

    The other option would be to get the L600 instead. One last piece of advice would be to act with some urgency. There is no telling how much longer the Legends are going to be around. Polk has not had many of the models in stock for direct purchase in a year now. I don’t know for a fact what that means for the future of the product line, but no inventory for that period of time does not bode well.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,443
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Welcome!

    The L800s would still work but the impact of the dimensional arrays at the ears wouldn't be ideal. Each speaker is 18 inches wide so a pair fills 3 feet of front wall space. If the speakers are placed 6 feet apart the amount of space from the speakers to the side walls would be 1.5 feet. You may be able to have the speakers 5 feet apart to leave 2 feet to each side wall. Polk recommends the speakers be 6 to 8 feet apart as optimum but 5 feet would be acceptable but that affects how far away you should sit from them.

    Acoustic panels on the side walls may help some.

    The L800s are unique in the audio world but for some situations the L600s are a better choice.

    Polk has said for these speakers, closer together is desired. They can be as little as 4 feet apart with the listener 7 to 8 feet back. The real issue as I see it is the room being 12x12. This is going to set up all kinds of reflection issues unless the room has some very good absorption/room treatments. Bottom line is it will be a tough room to get right, but not impossible to get decent sound. The L800 in that space will never deliver its full potential.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,729
    My experience with the L800 at Troy's is they love alot of space away from the back and side walls while being relatively close together.

    The back wall made a huge difference in their performance. I Wan to say we even had them out 5 to 6 ft into the room and it was a tremendous improvement.
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,104
    kevinB66 wrote: »
    I have an unfinished space that is 20’ x 15’ that I plan to turn into my new listening space this winter, so I am sure I can make that work.

    Well, that's a horse of a different color!

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  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 1,371
    A square room is bad for any speaker, but if you are planning the 15'×20' room at a later date, then I would say the L800 will work great in that room.
  • tjcinnamon
    tjcinnamon Posts: 100
    kevinB66 wrote: »
    Greetings and thank you for going easy on me with my first post. I am not a newbie when it comes to both modern and vintage audio but I always have more to learn.

    I may already know the answer to my question, but I will risk ridicule and ask anyway.

    My audio room is small; 12”x12”. I really have my heart set on the L800s. I know Polk recommends at least 3’ from the speakers to the side wall.

    Can I get away with using the L800 if I install sound absorption panels to reduce reflections?

    I’m running a Musical Fidelity M6 Preamp and Power Amp.

    Appreciate you letting me post here and for putting up with a Polk Newbie.

    PS, if the SDA is impacted, does that mean the L800s will sound awful?

    Regards,

    Kevin

    Congrats! No, they won’t sound awful at all. Mathew Poes had a “narrower” room and said that side wall absorption worked well. I think Symmetry is the most important if you are dealing with close sidewalls (i.e. having the sidewalls equal distance from the speakers).

    Those speakers will sound great! I was just at Axpona and the L800’s blew away the speakers I listened too. I really enjoy my L800’s and I have them in a “sub-optimal” set up.

    However, I can confirm that I get a large XTC despite not having the recommended set up and I can confirm that they sound way better than most speakers because of the XTC.

  • tjcinnamon
    tjcinnamon Posts: 100
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    XTC ?
    Crosstalk Cancellation
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,643
    Mathew Poes? Narrow room?
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  • tjcinnamon
    tjcinnamon Posts: 100
    F1nut wrote: »
    Mathew Poes? Narrow room?
    Audio reviewer and scientist. He reviewed the L800’s but had closer sidewalls. He talked about all of the things he had to do to make them shine.