Assembling a pair of Legends

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    Finally got a tracking number for the 4 woofers. The replacement tweeters are on the way as well
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    Here is a look at the drivers for the L 600. The magnet structures are pretty large and heavy compared to Polk Audio products in the past. The baskets, however, are still made relatively thin, although they do have indentations in the structure to provide extra strength and support. I can easily see how some Dyna mat could improve the performance of the speakers by eliminating ringing within that structure. 0qh153j92egv.jpg
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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited April 10
    This speaker has been prepped and ready for driver installation. This is a picture of the speaker before I begin doing that.ooclxxy3e3gn.jpg
    All drivers placed in position and ready to be secured. One thing about installing the drivers in the speakers is that they have to be oriented in such a way as to allow the pins on the beauty rings to clip in place. If you secure the driver in the wrong position, you will cover those holes and making it nearly impossible to fit the trim rings in place.
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    The legend series uses different size connectors for positive and negative. This makes it idiot proof for making certain that you’ve got the right connections.

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    One note about the tweeter around the outside of the bezel. It has a piece of 3M double-sided tape, which is used to secure the trim ring around it. I find using that tape to be redundant because the plate also has magnetic coupling, so just sliding into place in allowing the magnets to grip it makes it easier if you have to remove the driver later.7aa4e6q8jyag.jpg


    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    This little piggie went to market....... :D:D
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    Lovely pinky toes for such a grumpy old geezer! 😜
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  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 750
    Kinda surprised Polk is using stamped steel baskets for speakers in this price point .
    How about the L800’s ?

    Bk
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    gyosa wrote: »
    Kinda surprised Polk is using stamped steel baskets for speakers in this price point .
    How about the L800’s ?

    Bk
    Stamped steel in there as well
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    It's an engineering over correction... Lsim cast baskets were breaking so they reverted all the way to stamp steel.

    Kind of like when Janet Jackson revealed herself at the super bowl the next year was Paul McCartney playing piano for 15 minutes
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,051
    So, not applying Dynamat to the baskets while they are open?
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited April 12
    muncybob wrote: »
    So, not applying Dynamat to the baskets while they are open?

    I'd do so and will at some point when I go into my L800's. Surprisingly, John called his 1.2tl's fully modded at one point but didn't Dynamat. He later corrected his statement to say 'fully modded' but short of Dynamat 'cause he didn't have the time. Not sure where he lands re. this...?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,193
    gyosa wrote: »
    Kinda surprised Polk is using stamped steel baskets for speakers in this price point .
    How about the L800’s ?

    Bk

    Same drivers for all Legend speakers and I wouldn't be surprised if the same drivers are used in the Reserve series.

    Main differences are cabinet structure, material and more sophisticated x-overs L vs. R.

    H9
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,193
    **UPDATE on this project? Are they complete?
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited May 4
    heiney9 wrote: »
    **UPDATE on this project? Are they complete?

    They are complete minus the trim rings around the drivers and binding post plates. I do have the CAD drawings for for the rings but no way of putting them to use at the moment.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited June 3
    I just received the trim rings for the L 600s. I had them 3-D printed based upon the plan provided to me by Polk Audio. They fit well... next steps are to prep and paint them in a satin black finish to match the baffles.

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    Post edited by nooshinjohn on
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Awesome
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited June 4
    Raw 3D print…

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    Almost ready for primer/paint.

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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited June 5
    Ready for installation…

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    Installed…

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    Post edited by nooshinjohn on
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Looks legit to me
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,644
    Good job!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Looks factory! Who did the printing of your don't mind me asking
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Very cool
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,116
    Wow, John, those turned out nice! I'm impressed with how well you got the 3d printed rings cleaned up. Great looking finish.

    What did you do for the prep and finish process?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    edited June 5
    msg wrote: »
    Wow, John, those turned out nice! I'm impressed with how well you got the 3d printed rings cleaned up. Great looking finish.

    What did you do for the prep and finish process?

    I am treating them the same way I would go about prepping a model airplane kit for paint. It took a bunch of hand sanding to get the shape right, I then switched to a finer grit, then applied a thin coat of primer to make sure the shape was correct. After that, a skim coat of modeler’s putty from Tamiya was applied to the entire ring. Once that dried fully, another sanding, then a finer grit, followed by final prime, inspection and paint.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,116
    Good stuff. Your end result was well worth your efforts.

    What do you think?

    And are you planning on keeping these in house?

    I will say, I considered the L600s back when trying to decide which Legends to go with. Ultimately went with the L800s and a pair of L200s in case I didn't like the SDA.

    Have you listened to your L600s yet?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,444
    msg wrote: »
    Good stuff. Your end result was well worth your efforts.

    What do you think?

    And are you planning on keeping these in house?

    I will say, I considered the L600s back when trying to decide which Legends to go with. Ultimately went with the L800s and a pair of L200s in case I didn't like the SDA.

    Have you listened to your L600s yet?

    No, I have not heard them yet, but I will give them a proper break-in when the time comes.i don’t expect them to come close to the L800’s, but in my room, anything is possible. It has been a fun project, which has me wondering why companies don’t offer a builder’s version of some of their products.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    Fantastic work! Looks as good or better than factory...well done.
  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,960
    Great job John, they look great. Look forward to your impressions of them.
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