CS10 sounds muffled and raspy voices

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My used set up is ONkyo TX-SR502. Set up as 3.1 system. Polk PSW10, Monitor 50 fronts and CS10 center. Crossover at 80. Movies and music are streamed via Roku. The center is just muffled and voices unclear. Reviews of cs10 say clear voices, but not mine.

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  • SlowWalker1
    SlowWalker1 Posts: 7
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    Thanks to both for your comments. I wondered if was a bad idea to mix brands of speakers. You are saying no. You are also both saying definitely not to go with Klipsch. Well it was a good deal (used) at $100 for the pair. But if is a bad decision, I will let it pass at your recommendations. Hope the S35 is a good decision for me over the C10. Thanks for quick response comments.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,967
    edited January 2
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    Suggest you check your AVR calibration program/settings.

    If all is ok there, then it is likely your used CS10 has a blown tweeter.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,506
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    ^^^^ +1 If it's center speaker is it possible he could remove a speaker & hook his center channel to it to JUST test it - so then he would know center is ok OR bad ? If it follows you know it's something in your center speaker. Id test woofers first. Lightly push in & out & feel/listen for scratchy resistance OR frozen woofer. If those test ok. Try using paper towel tube & listen to tweeter closely if it sounds like the noise your hearing BINGO...
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  • SlowWalker1
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    I tested tweeter with paper towel tube. Works. Here is more info. I enjoy the streamed music fine. The streamed movies and TV shows voices are just too low and not crisp or clear in many dialogs. Have tried settings on my tuner for Movies, Music, NeoCinema and Stereo. Only slight differences. Sometimes Stereo is the best. I would say the sound is Warm as often described. But maybe too Warm. Do I need a better model Center channel or is my receiver the problem? I am a novice at this and dont know how to improve my enjoyment of the system. Set up as 3.1 only.
  • gmcman
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    Did you purchase the Onkyo used? If so, there's a chance the previous owner did his/her own calibration. Like @F1nut stated, I would try clearing any calibration settings if possible. Coulld also be the speaker level is down for the center and that would also be part of those calibration settings.

    Some AVR's also have a dialogue volume level, Maybe perform a reset on the Onkyo and start fresh.
  • F1nut
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    5 months later...
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  • SlowWalker1
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    I currently have the center channel and the fronts all set at equal sound. Should I set the center at higher setting than the Monitor 50 fronts? Trying to get voices on movies to be clearer. Most recently, I tried a movie (Band of Brothers WWII movie) played via CD. May have been a little improvement on the voices. All other sounds were fine with all speakers set at same volume. Again, should the center be set different than the 2 fronts. I have a 3.1 set up.
  • boston1450
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    23 days later
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,506
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    Raise the center channel signal in settings & try it. You tell us
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  • boston1450
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    Not sure. But have you read the manual on settings ?
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,506
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    One more thing. If your listening to music it should only be 2 channel. If your watching a movie or TV put settings on HT. Something tells me you have it all on HT & adjusted all the same
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  • F1nut
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    I want to know how you watched a movie off a CD?
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  • msg
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    Good info here. @SlowWalker1 You missed an important question and suggestion above from @gmcman
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  • SlowWalker1
    SlowWalker1 Posts: 7
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    Thanks for several responses. And yes my movie was a DVD. Not CD. Ha! My AVR has a Movie and Music setting and yes all speakers are then playing including the center cs10. I have tried adjusting speaker Bass and Treble settings. I still am having some poor results on voices watching movies. This is most obvious with a deep male voice. It sounds like a raspy voice and makes me wonder if one of the 2 speakers is vibrating too much? Sometimes it just kinda mumbling conversations. I am considering to buy a like new center speaker. Even there they all seem so close in specs, I dont know which to consider. I found locally, T30, CS1,CS2 Series II,CSi3 or another CS10 or a CS35. Which is the best for me? Or is my Onkyo TX SR502 settings just not up for the job? I'm a bit frustrated with equipment and myself on this. Appreciate all previous contributors and suggestions.
  • SlowWalker1
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    A related question: Since my complaint of voice audio on movies centers on my C10 speaker, I wondering more about Signature s35 as an option. It's lower height would suite me fine. With that cluster of 6 speakers and the tweeter would the audio sound better for me? I have 2 local ones spotted for $120 range. Not sure if this is a likely solution for me. Starting to wonder about scrapping the whole set up and trying something different.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,758
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    That would be my choice as well.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,967
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    You need to set the volume level for the center in your AVR to a higher level.

    Also, is the tweeter in your center at ear height, higher or lower? That can make a huge difference. Post a pic taken from your seated position.
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  • SlowWalker1
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    I am about to buy a Signature Series S-35 for my center and replace the C10. I hope this is a good decision to improve my 3.1 system. I am further considering to replace my Polk Monitor 50 fronts with a pair of Klipsch KF-26. Thinking the 2 6.5" will be an improvement over the current 5.5" in the monitor. Any comments or opinions of this upgrade to improve my system? Thanks
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,758
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    Are you deaf to high frequencies?

    That Klipch horn tweeter makes my ears bleed.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,967
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    You don't want to mix different brands of speakers for the front 3 and you don't want Klipsch, period.
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  • msg
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    I say just keep buying stuff and maybe the issue will just go away.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,178
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    I am a novice at this and dont know how to improve my enjoyment of the system. Set up as 3.1 only.

    We all start someplace. I've been involved since 2010 and I'm only a novice 1st class.

    I didn't read where you actually calibrated the system. Trying different settings is okay but having the speakers working together through calibration makes a HUGE difference in your sound.

    Do you have a set up mic with your Onkyo? I saw one question regarding your manual but no response to it. Do you have one?

    Highest recommendation: before buying extra stuff, calibrate your speakers using the set-up mic. In most cases you're allowed three positions before stopping, I'd take advantage of the max allowable positions. Couldn't hurt to have the data.

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