My stereo room is coming along - new lights
Joey_V
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Sometimes I focus so much on the gear that I neglect the room. I’ve been wanting to update the room to match the feel of the gear. I finally got around to it. After looking at many options, my wife approved the Buster and Punch Carara Marble Wall Sconces.
An audiophile club member came to install it today. Will have him install the furutech gtx outlet next time.
But it looks awesome and really nearly finishes the room.
I still have to work on some decor on top of my Gik turbo bass traps and I need to find some walnut stained qrd diffusers for the entire perimeter of the walls.
Have you guys worked on your room lately?
An audiophile club member came to install it today. Will have him install the furutech gtx outlet next time.
But it looks awesome and really nearly finishes the room.
I still have to work on some decor on top of my Gik turbo bass traps and I need to find some walnut stained qrd diffusers for the entire perimeter of the walls.
Have you guys worked on your room lately?
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Did you pay for a professional to come and set up the acoustic treatments in that room?
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Also you spent over $2k for three sconces?
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How is that different from spending $2k on (component of choice)?
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Big fan of those lights! A couple grand IMO is not all that out of line for high end lighting fixtures. If my room was over I’d have no qualms doing something similar2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave
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How is that different from spending $2k on (component of choice)?
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IMHO, the sconce lighting if for a rig with Tubes . . . tubes add soul!
Are you rocking any tube equipment? asking for a friend
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Thanks everyone. Yeah it was like $3250 on the lights, more than I was wanting to spend because while I didn’t like the crappy stock lights, I wasn’t planning on spending more than $150 each. But the Buster and Punch stuff was just too awesome and quality (now that I received them) and packaging and feel is just so next level. I think each light is 25 lbs while my old one was stamped metal at 1lb.
I had a choice between black marble and white/grey, I ended up with white/grey as my wife felt like it matched my room more.
I scored 30% off Cyber Monday sale but I missed the Black Friday sale which would’ve saved me another 20% (I forgot London timezone is different than Tejas). I was waffling and missed the BFriday sale as that would’ve put all five at $2250. Sucks. I told my wife I was sad I missed the BF sale and I was gonna wait for the next BF in 2024 (historically BP doesn’t go on sale except BFriday/CMonday). My wife said, just get it, if you like it and it makes your room more complete and you spend a lot of time in there, just do it. Glad I did. We have some other nice lights in the home but this Buster and Punch stuff is next level in terms of quality and packaging. It’s unfortunate that for example my dining room and family room lights while more expensive came in subpar packaging which makes me think they probably come out of a factory somewhere where there’s cheap labor.
I believe BPunch is made in London.
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I chose the white and grey because I just put a deposit in this…
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Other choices I had… the dual lightsaber effect was nicer but that measures 36” so it would ruin my diffusers.
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Did you pay for a professional to come and set up the acoustic treatments in that room?
We have some geniuses in the club that eat breathe and sleep room response and treatment.
Here is the resulting room response with Boulder and Magico M2, 75db full frequency spectrum pink noise:
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IMHO, the sconce lighting if for a rig with Tubes . . . tubes add soul!
Are you rocking any tube equipment? asking for a friend
btw, the rig and room look Great!
Thx bro!
I do have tubes… dual audio research reference 10 (phono and linestage)
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Lol
That’s my club member and friend Melvi… the way he wired the rear of the wall lights, perfectionist. We try to avoid fire hazards in these parts.
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For perimeter upper diffusers, maybe this but I’m not yet committed
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I was gonna say, it definitely seems like you need more room treatments. So yeah go for it.
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Beautiful all around! Your wife was right about the white marble sconces but man those black ones look very cool indeed.SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette
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Jetmaker737 wrote: »Beautiful all around! Your wife was right about the white marble sconces but man those black ones look very cool indeed.
Yeah the black is probably nicer as a singular unit or for a fancy area like a bar or dining room. But as a totality, my wife felt like we had to tone down the lights so they wouldn’t be the focal point of the wall. But rather blend in and still have some pop.
I liked the tube 6sn7 feel.
And it really matches the Sennheiser He1 that I hope to receive if things line up.
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I was gonna say, it definitely seems like you need more room treatments. So yeah go for it.
I’ve had a few select members come by to listen, and give me pointers or critique. I’ve yet to come across a dissatisfied individual.
A members review:
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Very cool lights. They definiteIy fit well with the room and gear. I wonder if Home Depot carries replacement bulbs?
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For perimeter upper diffusers, maybe this but I’m not yet committed
You could put knick knacks in them.
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On my turbo Gik bass traps, it has a walnut platform
I want to put this Grimlock toy on it!
I already nudged the wife for it for my birthday in May
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The lights and the room look great, I can appreciate the quality of their products for sure!
This created more questions for me than answers and I was hoping you had more insight?
There appears to be a 20db difference between the low frequencies and high frequencies and no response above 15khz?
Just trying to understand what you have going on here. I know when I ran DIRAC measurements my system had a similar slant but no where this pronounced.
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Sometimes I focus so much on the gear that I neglect the room.
Hey, Joey. Do you have any other available closets nearby? I would clear out much of what I see. I would also bring the speakers out about 3-4 feet and lose all of the gear/ottoman/LP's in front of the speakers.
I am offering you some constructive criticism here and I am in no way trying to bring you down or be, "that guy".
Think of it like this. If that room were a speaker, much of the volume would be taken up by the items within the room, reducing the available volume. You have great gear, no doubt. You have what appears to be a great sized room that is dedicated to nothing but audio ( and lights ). If you were to upgrade a crossover within a speaker and the new components take up such vast real estate within the speaker, it eventually affects the volume, which, in turn, affects the frequency output of said speaker.
One of the things that I have experienced in my own personal audio journey is that volume (within reason) is one of the greatest aspects of an audio reproductive effort.
I do hope that you take what I have to say as a friend and not just some unfounded comments by "Joe Schmoe" off the internet that just wants to bully or degrade what you have for no reason. It is, however, something that I thought I would mention for your thought.
With that said, I personally think you should start re-experimenting with the excessive amount of panels in the room. They may have worked well with past systems to clean up the hash/grit or whatever it was you were experiencing but that sure is a lot of treatment for one room. The measurements even confirm that.
Anyhoo, rock on with yo' bad self and tell me to pound sand, if you want. I am just commenting on your current room setup as I see it. There are many things in this hobby that cannot be explained and your room could sound like God's gift to the audio world. I don't know, because I haven't heard it.
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Sometimes I focus so much on the gear that I neglect the room. I’ve been wanting to update the room to match the feel of the gear. I finally got around to it. After looking at many options, my wife approved the Buster and Punch Carara Marble Wall Sconces.
An audiophile club member came to install it today. Will have him install the furutech gtx outlet next time.
But it looks awesome and really nearly finishes the room.
I still have to work on some decor on top of my Gik turbo bass traps and I need to find some walnut stained qrd diffusers for the entire perimeter of the walls.
Have you guys worked on your room lately?
Very nice room bro. Those new headphones gotta be killer!! I wish I had your room and you had a feather up your backside....then we'd both be tickled
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Love the discussion
Will reply when I get back home
The short of it is a room response was done after listening. Room response should shelve down as typically seen on well curated rooms and is typically shelving down as frequencies move up. I’ll find a better response curve on my room, I’ll post it shortly. Perhaps also a slight limitation of the microphone.
Tom - hear ya. I’ve worked on various positioning. The front half of the room is deader than the rear. The rear is very diffused but you can’t see it. The seat is comfortable in terms of aural sensation. The panels are 8.5” thick each so it gives an illusion of being close to the rear of the speakers. Moving the speaker forward changes the perspective of my listening and makes me feel like I’m in a bubble of sound. I prefer looking from afar and I prefer a stage like effect. The bass is linear, if I remove treatments from the front of the room where the sound is generated, I find it to smear the stage and tightness of image not to response I end up with destructive comb filtering.
I’ll respond more later, but as they say… proof is in the listening. I had a suspicion my room response was pretty linear in the bass region and I was mightily happy with the FRC when I finally saw it.
I have not encountered a single person where they felt the system deficient in any sonic character. Suffice to say we have heard many mega and more elaborate systems, and it is typically my system, then a gap, then someone else’s. Atleast that’s what they tell me and spread within the group.
This guy heard Skip’s largest system. He has said my and skips system are the one two punch in the area thus far. And skips is not #1.
I’m in no hurry to move things dramatically. It just kinda works.
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