REL Subs for 2 channel

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,126
    Usually, you don't ship the entire sub for service. You take the plate amp off and ship only that portion of the sub. I may be incorrect with this particular sub (not familiar with it) but thought I'd throw that out there for your consideration.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,927
    The seller is asking 1k for both but I am himming and hawing between these and 1 12" Rythmik sub for a 10 x 16 room with an open doorway to a small 6 x 6 room.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,126
    Between the two choices you have? I would personally choose the two subs over the one Rythmik.

    While I am enthralled with the direct servo subs and what they bring to the table, two subs in a room are easier to thwart room nodes. Plus, you have the option to hook them up in stereo, which is always an added effect. Not with every song out there but when they mix the lower frequencies in stereo, the end result is (or can be) stunning at times. FWIW.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 1,477
    edited November 2023
    Have to agree. I've only ever had stereo subs, but having had them and being able to tune each channel independently for the lack of symmetry in my listening area has been pretty sweet. I'll for sure never go down to just one.

    That said, two T/7s might be a lot for that size room and for those speakers. Too bad REL doesn't have Polk speakers on their website where they suggest parings. But, you could call or email them with your speakers and room dimensions, anyway, and see what they say.

    Brian

    One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 4,956
    REL has a Subwoofer Finder on their site. It tells you what sub/subs they recommend on the info you provide...speaker pairing, room size, 2 channel, HT or a combo system. Pretty spot on.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,927
    The sub finder on the REL site seems a bit wonky but maybe I was missing something. Anyway, the seller made an offer I couldn’t refuse so aI am headed up to the hinterlands of the Northern Atlanta suburbs Monday to get the pair. I’ll keep y’all updated after I get them up and running. Thanks for the info.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,335
    Rel's subwoofer matching tool doesn't need to be exact, it just needs to be used for speakers in similar configurations and low bass output ratings. Rel has the Reserve R200s listed there. They have a long list of Focal models so I've used those for comparisons before. Unlike some companies that tend to recommend subwoofers with 16Hz bass output for use with bookshelf speakers they tend to recommend a lower priced model when the next one up might be better for some tastes. Rel is into blending and reinforcement rather than absolute bass extension in a room.
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,480
    My understanding of the rel subwoofer tool - they actually bring those speakers in for evaluation with a subwoofer set up.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 4,956
    They were dead on recommending their T/7X for my room & speakers. I opted for a stereo pair & the results have been stunning to say the least. I can honestly say that their addition has been the best upgrade to my system to date.

    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,480
    They were dead on recommending their T/7X for my room & speakers. I opted for a stereo pair & the results have been stunning to say the least. I can honestly say that their addition has been the best upgrade to my system to date.

    Depending on how far you live, you must come to our rel live meet
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 4,956
    Joey_V wrote: »
    They were dead on recommending their T/7X for my room & speakers. I opted for a stereo pair & the results have been stunning to say the least. I can honestly say that their addition has been the best upgrade to my system to date.

    Depending on how far you live, you must come to our rel live meet

    What's the date? I believe you're in the DFW area...I'm in South Jersey right across the river from Philly. Could be a possibility. That will be a awesome event for sure.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • ratpin
    ratpin Posts: 85
    I run a small REL in the master bath and it's able to pressurize the small room pretty well. I was really leaning towards picking up one of the newly released walnut veneered classic 98 models for the retro aesthetic in a throwback listening room I'm putting together. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I ended up finding a "as new" SB16-Ultra locally for less than the REL. It does not have the cool vintage walnut cabinet but I'm sure the extra overhead will be nice to have.

    REL seems to make great products and they continue to reinvest in making those products better rather than just make a profit. I would recommend them to anyone.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 4,956
    kevhed72 wrote: »
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    Well this purchase went too smoothly sans the 3.5 hour traffic ordeal driving to the northern Atlanta burbs and back to the southwest boonies, but the seller was super cool and they are in great shape. Initial impressions of them running with L200s is quite stunning, considering I have been sub less for some time now. Right now I have the level set at 9 oclock and crossover set at 10 oclock but much dialing in too do. More fun to come....I am stoked!

    Definitely worth the drive! Congrats on such a great deal.
    Your positioning has the driver facing the wall, are you experimenting with positioning because you want them facing out into the room & try a tow in. Also if possible try them behind the Polks with tow in.
    Definitely trial & error but that's what makes it so much fun. You'll find yourself tweaking the XO & volume until it sounds right to you.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 1,477
    They are a fun and easy sub to setup and get results with in short order. I still mess with mine a click or two on the crossover and level, depending on what genre I'm listening to, my mood, or just what I'm hearing or not hearing that particular day.

    Similar to Phil, I'm hoping that pic with the side-facing right sub was just as you were checking your settings, though. His recommendations are right on.

    Enjoy!

    Brian

    One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,335
    Although REL typically recommends starting their subwoofers in a corner and adjusting outwards a bit from there for strongest bass performance I always prefer stereo pairs located as close as possible in line with the main speakers whether that's in-board or out-board of them. Toe in is aligned with whatever the main speakers are. I use a pair facing straight forward next to my L800s.

    I'm going to guess that placement in-board of the main speakers may help them blend best in that space and mean you don't have to mess with the placement of the main speakers if you have those dialed in where you want them. The volume dial on that model may need to be down quite a bit with two subwoofers in that space but nothing to be concerned about.
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,927
    Thanks for the info on placement. Since the wall the speakers are on is a bit short, Im trying to avoid squeezing them in the corners but will try in line with the Polks on the inside and outside. My son may be recruited to assist with the dialing in....I can already see his eyes rolling now.
  • jbreezy5
    jbreezy5 Posts: 1,141
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    i8zgivd7t1xn.jpeg
    Well this purchase went too smoothly sans the 3.5 hour traffic ordeal driving to the northern Atlanta burbs and back to the southwest boonies, but the seller was super cool and they are in great shape. Initial impressions of them running with L200s is quite stunning, considering I have been sub less for some time now. Right now I have the level set at 9 oclock and crossover set at 10 oclock but much dialing in too do. More fun to come....I am stoked!

    Nice set-up. What kit do you have sandwiched between your Marantz gear?

    Congrats on the great subs!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,602
    That's a Joule tube pre amp.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,480
    That’s a nice set up
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