Subwoofer swarm
Joey_V
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Subwoofer swarm… has anyone here tackled this idea?
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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No but may be actually doing this in the near future. We'll see...
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Ok so can someone fill me in, what the hell is a Swarm? Sounds like some made up ****.Dan
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Swarm means 4 subs
Smooth out room modes and resonanceMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Technically it could mean 8 subs too
But that’s just crazyMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
AudioKinesis Swarm is a four-subwoofer system with one amp to power them, $4000. In the latest Absolute Sound Editors’ Choice issue. It was reviewed some years ago by Robert E. Green, who likes it.
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A Rel 3D system is an option using as many subwoofers as will fit in a room with each speaker having its own subwoofer potentially. Maybe even more than one! Depends if it's for home theater. If it's for stereo only then three Rel subwoofers can be stacked for each main speaker.
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Yes exactly
Audiokinesis swarm. I just got off the phone with him, he said I could do it with 2 more JL subs.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Love that video ^^^
He knows what he wants and makes no bones about itMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I have 5 subs* in a 5 ch HT, does that count?
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Subwoofer swarm… has anyone here tackled this idea?
Not yet!
Awhile back, for my main system I was really close to ordering 4 affordable smaller sub drivers and giving it a go. Was thinking of a Sonotube or wedge enclose behind one of the sofas as space is tight. Even with my room being open to the kitchen it's probably overkill over the two I have. Definitely, 2-4 subs is better in my room vs. the response issue at the main two seats with a single sub. It gets much worst the further out you go as a have a loveseat and couch side by side.2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
Joey, I will say this....
You may or may not know that I have 2ea. Rythmik subs in my system. I have had many subs and the one thing I found most interesting is to place the subs (unless down firing, which I do not like) on very substantial stands that place the sub (or if dual subs in one unit, the center of both subs) at tweeter level.
This helps immensely with room nodes and the issues with overloading the room. While I may be interested in a sub swarm, what I have now works perfectly. At the very least, get two subs and configure them in stereo.
You would not believe just how much information is offered in stereo at lower frequencies. You cannot detect where the subs are either....at any point in time, no matter the genre of music, if dialed in correctly....yet the information, texture and detail?
Oh my. You will know it when you hear it.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I recommend no less than 16 subs.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I recommend no less than 16 subs.
I wanna swarm the deepest sea and run with a 20
Pack ! Just to dominate over my humble towers !
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Exactly if you don't have a full circle around you connecting end to end you are doing it wrong- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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....says the guy with no subs.....
(at least on the 2 Channel rig)
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Subwoofers have no place in 2 channel
I thought we were talking about home theater, sorry!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
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Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I don’t think subs are anti two channel
I think if well implemented, is amazingMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I don’t think subs are anti two channel
I think if well implemented, is amazing
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