My 5B - In Mod We Trust

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  • Amp purchase pending = Adcom GFA-555ii. Scheduled to pick up in a week.

    Surge protector shopping = in earnest!
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
  • Sitka
    Sitka Posts: 74
    plastic_avatar - you may want to consider a whole house surge protector. That's what I'm considering. They are about the same price and the same basic principle - and the whole house is protected.
  • @Sitka

    I will definitely look at that this week. Any recommendations on brand?
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    My friend had these installed in the shop...
    Keeps him from having to reboot some machines and computers...

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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,987
    “In Mod We Trust.”

    ❤️ the thread title
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
  • ChrisD06
    ChrisD06 Posts: 929
    edited August 2023
    xschop wrote: »
    My friend had these installed in the shop...
    Keeps him from having to reboot some machines and computers...

    zahkkovrgm3w.jpg




    Those look very interesting. Another good surge protection is solar. Someone in our neighborhood has solar with backup batteries, and since they're off grid, they haven't been hit by any power surges the rest of us have been. It's quite crazy to think about
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    edited August 2023
    ChrisD06 wrote: »
    xschop wrote: »
    My friend had these installed in the shop...
    Keeps him from having to reboot some machines and computers...

    zahkkovrgm3w.jpg




    Those look very interesting. Another good surge protection is solar. Someone in our neighborhood has solar with backup batteries, and since they're off grid, they haven't been hit by any power surges the rest of us have been. It's quite crazy to think about

    Well you can get power surges from solar panels, while your gear is usually safe from them the roof of your residence is not. A ton of folks have done solar in my area over the years and I'm about to as well. There has been 3-4 instances where the panels have flaked out and burnt the roof pretty darn good. One instance was a high school last May near the end of the year. It was a $300,000.00 roof, solar panel repair. The other houses were nearly totaled due to the amount of water put onto the roof structure.
  • ChrisD06
    ChrisD06 Posts: 929
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    ChrisD06 wrote: »
    xschop wrote: »
    My friend had these installed in the shop...
    Keeps him from having to reboot some machines and computers...

    zahkkovrgm3w.jpg




    Those look very interesting. Another good surge protection is solar. Someone in our neighborhood has solar with backup batteries, and since they're off grid, they haven't been hit by any power surges the rest of us have been. It's quite crazy to think about

    Well you can get power surges from solar panels, while your gear is usually safe from them the roof of your residence is not. A ton of folks have done solar in my area over the years and I'm about to as well. There has been 3-4 instances where the panels have flaked out and burnt the roof pretty darn good. One instance was a high school last May near the end of the year. It was a $300,000.00 roof, solar panel repair. The other houses were nearly totaled due to the amount of water put onto the roof structure.

    Ive heard of this happening though correct me if I'm wrong but it's quite uncommon? I'd assume a higher power system would also be at a higher risk of the panel catching fire.

    Our neighborhood had a wildfire destroy half of it, we got back and like 20 people got solar panels installed within a few days. Someone on Facebook said they did it so when the lines were cut they'd still have power. Wait until they discover they need a battery for that LOL
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    True it is not common BUT it does happen. Like anything else if it does happen it happens BIG.

    Correct if the power is out unless you have a storage battery or natural gas generator you're out of juice too.
    Those batteries are not cheap in the least. My solar company that's doing my solar panels gave me an estimate on the battery and about fainted. LoL He also told me that the batteries don't last near as long as the solar panels do so where I will get 20-25 years out of my solar panels the battery may only last 10 to 12 yrs.
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,372
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    “In Mod We Trust.”

    ❤️ the thread title

    Would that be in "Modifications" we trust or "Moderators"?
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • @skrol

    Good question.

    [thinks]

    If a model mod who mods groups on mods mods (or mods mods) they might be more trustworthy than a mod who is never moved to mod or mod mods.

    So, the answer is yes.

    Though... mods can be fickle and troublesome things.

    So, yes. The answer is still yes.

    [caveat emptor]
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
  • @pitdogg2 and @ChrisD06

    Solar = I wish I could justify it. I'd rather do wind, but the neighbors would go nuts.

    If I still lived out in the hills, hydro.

    Trying to justify a gas generator for the house, if I can hook it to a sewage digester...
    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,987
    skrol wrote: »
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    “In Mod We Trust.”

    ❤️ the thread title

    Would that be in "Modifications*" we trust or "Moderators"?
    *yes😀
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
  • Sitka
    Sitka Posts: 74
    @Sitka

    I will definitely look at that this week. Any recommendations on brand?

    I'm looking at the Bad Wolf Surge Protector 240VAC 65kA. It's a newcomer brand to compete with Eaton, but made in USA and Veteran owned. The unit itself is $99 plus the cost of a 20A 240V breaker in your main panel, plus the cost of having a qualified electrician install it. If the unit ever actually trips due to surge, it must be replaced (it fried itself to save your electronics).
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,496
    SurgeX
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  • Sitka
    Sitka Posts: 74
    I'd have to agree with F1nut if you want the whole gamut of power conditioner and EMI/RFI Noise Filter, along with the surge protection - go with SurgeX. However for my budget setup, straight grid power works fine and I can live with an occasional artifact in the sound stream. All I want to do is prevent my gear from being reduced to junk and the associated hassle of filing a claim, etc. So for me whole house makes sense.
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,372
    @skrol

    Good question.

    [thinks]

    If a model mod who mods groups on mods mods (or mods mods) they might be more trustworthy than a mod who is never moved to mod or mod mods.

    So, the answer is yes.

    Though... mods can be fickle and troublesome things.

    So, yes. The answer is still yes.

    [caveat emptor]

    Wow, that instantly made my head hurt. Nice!
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • plastic_avatar
    plastic_avatar Posts: 708
    edited September 2023
    I have a series of not-the-best line conditioners/surge protectors to keep me safe(r) until I get something better.

    I put a new pair of Daytons in the 5(B). We like them so much better than the 194. I know, controversial, but it's what we like.

    Keith Don't Go (live), Living for the City, and No One Dies From Love sounded especially good.

    Toed-in dramatically (pointed to either side of center seat), solid central vocals slightly ahead of speaker plane, sounds to edge of physical speaker periphery, as expected, nothing exaggerated. Full 8 ft width from speaker to speaker filled with balanced sound.

    Pointed straight ahead? WHOA. Sounds extend 1 to 2 feet past the outside edges of the speaker cabinets. Get Back! was almost SDA-like.

    Some vocals, wow, seriously... I like them better than on the 1C. Others, the 1C wins. Can't figure out the defining reason why there is a difference that makes a clear winner on one song or another artist.

    These new observations are on the back-up amp, but they track with our thoughts for the composition of sounds and presentation on the other amps.

    The last mods on the menu are:

    - a little more mat on the mids
    - foaming the inner baskets
    - maybe a bracing dowel from front to back

    So far, well worth all the time and every penny.

    Been listening to a bunch of music, at volume, and it's amazing that this much sound comes out of a little 2-way. Blasting The Hu right now. Tasty.

    Mods/upgrades to-date:

    - silver wire
    - new spades
    - new terminals
    - Clarity caps and Mundorf resistors
    - light mat on mids
    - mat on passives
    - replaceable-uber-plugged mids with drilled pole pieces, courtesy of @xschop
    - BH5, courtesy of @skipshot12
    - Daytons and custom tweeter plates, a'la xschop and me
    - removed polyswitch and fuse
    - hurricane nuts and hex bolts
    - custom craft foam gaskets
    - @VR3 felt around tweeters

    I think that's it. I think...

    oddojmudjtzn.jpegNew plates and Daytons installed.

    tv2rdllpw6k6.jpegRoom is 90% re-done and in order. Still have some stuff to put away and shelves to adjust, but getting there. The big room rearrange is on week 3.

    836jt2s3za8c.jpegNew Bambu X1-C for business, but also for play ;)

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    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    Looks like that nice wide throat profile is being achieved by the thicker plates. Great job.
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  • Delivered to my Dad 2 weeks ago.

    He's set up with an old, but capable, Yamaha and the SMSL D-6

    The space they're in is tricky, but they sound better than anything he's ever owned (or heard, imo).

    If I can afford to fix one of my Yamaha amps, I'll swap it in and use the D-6 for his pre (for now). And then, I think I'd take the spare 1C up and bring the 5(B) back as my secondary listening set. They're just that good.

    Piper, Mom, Dad, and I had a great time over 2 nights, sharing music with each other.

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    The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage