Fentanyl
sucks2beme
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It sure seems every new wave of drugs is worse than the last.
This stuff seems to be everywhere. It's so cheap to make that
the cartels are mixing it into everything and making it look like
prescription pills. Weed is even getting tainted with it.
It's so strong even a couple of salt grain sized pieces are fatal.
China exports the raw chemicals and cartels whip it up in their
Mexican labs.
It doesn't help that we exposed our youth to ADD meds.
My wife knows a lot of moms with middle class kids that have
fallen into drugs. Almost every one of them said they had their
kids on them because of teacher/doctor advise.
A lot of my two sons friends were on ADD. A lot of them have
problems. My younger son dropped his friends in high school
because of their drug use. Both my sons thankfully avoided
This awful epidemic.
Studies say ADHD is perfectly safe. But real life sure seems to
tell a different story.
This stuff seems to be everywhere. It's so cheap to make that
the cartels are mixing it into everything and making it look like
prescription pills. Weed is even getting tainted with it.
It's so strong even a couple of salt grain sized pieces are fatal.
China exports the raw chemicals and cartels whip it up in their
Mexican labs.
It doesn't help that we exposed our youth to ADD meds.
My wife knows a lot of moms with middle class kids that have
fallen into drugs. Almost every one of them said they had their
kids on them because of teacher/doctor advise.
A lot of my two sons friends were on ADD. A lot of them have
problems. My younger son dropped his friends in high school
because of their drug use. Both my sons thankfully avoided
This awful epidemic.
Studies say ADHD is perfectly safe. But real life sure seems to
tell a different story.
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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Our friend Paula had 2 wonderful sons. 1 died & 1 year later the oldest died. Sad.. I know nothing about drugs. No matter what anyone says it's a disease once you start you want more..
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Fentanyl kills before it becomes an addiction, and is hidden inside the formulation of seemingly liegit medications. Scary crap indeed.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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We recently lost a young fellow locally who was smoking a joint that was laced with fentanyl. Sadly it killed him.
Agreed; it is a terrible and unbelievably potent drug. -
The whole opiate thing was caused by greedy drug companies.
Add to it a bunch of doctors who put their brains in neutral.
Not addictive? That made my head hurt.
Antidepressants are another wave of trouble. They hand them out
like candy. And it seems it causes a lot of people to kill themselves.
I see those online pharmacies are selling them now. Answer a few
questions in a chat session and you are good or go.
What happened to the medical industry? It seems they are
NOT looking out for our best interests.
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Drugs Svck!!
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Not just from the medical industry. Street drugs will get worse with what's going on at the border along with a worsening economy and a more detached generation. It reminds me of Italy. In speaking with relatives they say that at least 1/4 of kids in school are on drugs due to the same combination of factors.
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I could never understand the allure of Fentanyl from a Drug pushers point of view. Why sell a drug that is going to kill the customer? Your not going to get any repeat buisness, right?
So then the only other logical explaination is it's sold with the intention to kill people....and that does not seem like it's coming from a buisness that depends on repeat customers.HT SYSTEM-
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I could never understand the allure of Fentanyl from a Drug pushers point of view. Why sell a drug that is going to kill the customer? Your not going to get any repeat buisness, right?
So then the only other logical explaination is it's sold with the intention to kill people....and that does not seem like it's coming from a buisness that depends on repeat customers.
I think we have reason to conclude that it is highly likely part of a Death by a Thousand Cuts plan by the CCP to weaken our country and help them become the world superpower.George / NJ
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As horrible as this (and several others as well) drug is/are, the Libertarian in me says "Your Body, Your Choice" - just don't ask me to fund the drugs or the detox treatment.
I find it contradictory that there is such a high(pun) level of acceptance of marijuana, prescription pain killers and antidepressants, yet we still villainize cocaine, heroin, etc..."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
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I find it contradictory that there is such a high(pun) level of acceptance of marijuana, prescription pain killers and antidepressants, yet we still villainize cocaine, heroin, etc...
Because there is no control or tax on cocaine and heroin
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Due to it's high potency mixing is tricky. A little pocket of fentanyl
Is fatal. So when making a batch of pills or lacing something else,
this is the result. Some of the end product is dangerous.
As long as most of it is good, so what? It's just a cost of doing
business. Who are you going to complain to?
We are victims of our own vices. That includes myself and my
bouts with alcohol in my younger days. I made sure my kids
didn't get the drug lecture. They got a description of the effects
of all of it on people and the problems it causes. That included
my ugly side. They appear to have listened.
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Fentanyl isn't designed to kill it's just so potent that it's easy to OD if you're not extremely exact with dosing.
F opiates.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Fentanyl is China's modern version of the Boxer Wars.
This time they're winning and payback is proving to be a M-O-F-O
100,000+ casualties a year.
The boat's taking on some serious water.
We know the source of the trouble so .... do we eliminate the source of the problem or do we just wish harder ?Sal Palooza -
https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-and-synthetic-drugs-control-fentanyl-methamphetamines-and-precursors/
According to this the ingredients are being sourced from China and turned into Fentanyl in Mexico then smuggled up.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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I don't know how unreliable field test kits are or aren't. But I can tell you that it sounded like an op ed piece and didn't present any evidence that official lab tests disproved the field tests. And I decided to stop reading when the author referred to any referende to open borders as "racist xenophobia".George / NJ
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And OP and follow up posters didn't provide any evidence that someone died from smoking a joint. So I guess the moral of the story is don't believe everything you read on the internet. Shrug.
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"But the evidence says otherwise. It’s not just an urban legend. The Connecticut Forensic Science Lab confirmed that the marijuana collected did in fact contain fentanyl."
https://www.addictions.com/blog/yes-marijuana-laced-with-fentanyl-is-causing-fatal-overdoses/
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I am in possession of some Delta8 gummies I would like to have analyzed that a well meaning friend gifted me to help with sleep etc.. He had given me a bottle months before that came from the same dispensary shop and they were extremely mild and with the same label on the jar. "Maybe" slightly psychoactive in that my dreams were a bit more memorable. Well I took one of these gummies and lets just say that I didn't get back to feeling normal for an entire week and it was not a pleasant experience at all, especially for the first day. One of the symptoms was an erratic heartbeat which is not at all THC like to my knowledge whatsoever.
I have "heard" that gummies from China are also turning up laced with Fentanyl.
FWIW.George / NJ
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I don't think anyone here can provide evidence. Just quote the internet.
That is all we have. Given how even news services are in the modern
age, we can't always count on them either. Credible sources are telling
us that it's finding it's way into all sorts of things. The grass one maybe
true, maybe not. Depends on who you believe. My take on it is if you
Smoke weed, be mindful of where you're getting it from.
You even have to be careful about cheap vape products. No drugs, but
some of the Chinese ones are pretty shady. Got knows what impurities
are in them. This is the modern age.
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I am soooo glad I am 30+ years past my youth of doing drugs..
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And OP and follow up posters didn't provide any evidence that someone died from smoking a joint. So I guess the moral of the story is don't believe everything you read on the internet. Shrug.
Well you could talk to my grandson if you'd like some proof. It was his good friend that smoked the joint that was laced and died from a fentanyl overdose. -
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motorstereo wrote: »Well you could talk to my grandson if you'd like some proof. It was his good friend that smoked the joint that was laced and died from a fentanyl overdose.
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your grandson's friend. I would certainly be interested in reading the toxicology report/death certificate from the coroner.
Regardless of the cause of death, it's truly unfortunate when someone is taken well before their time. May he rest in peace. -
sucks2beme wrote: »This awful epidemic.
Studies say ADHD is perfectly safe. But real life sure seems to
tell a different story.
It is a very awful epidemic!
Whenever I read "studies say" . . . I do a full stop and think, but common sense says otherwise
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I thought the Fentanyl Crawl was a hip-hop move.
With 2 million illegal immigrants invading this year at the border, you can bet this epidemic is just the beginning. Same modus operandi that brought down Europe.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists. -
The appetite of America for drugs have ruined Mexico and
a bunch of countries in South America. Immigration or not
stuff has been rolling in for years. Nobody has a fix. Legalizing
It doesn't seem to solve anything. The documentary
"Seattle is dying" and it's sequel really drive this home.
They suggested arresting them and pushing rehab and
aggressive follow up consoling. Just leaving them on the
streets does not help anyone."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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