Somebody's got some 'splainin' to do.....
treitz3
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What in tarnation is this?
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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It looks like a smaller model than the Wilson Benesch Resolution that TAS reviewed ($74,500). However, looking at the WB website, I’m not sure if it’s a current model.
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Wilson Benesch Resolution
Geometry Series 2-Way Electric, 4-Way acoustic, Floor Standing Speaker2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Loudspeaker designer takes a big toke, holds his (or her) breath for a moment, exhales slowly and drawls.This'll blow their minds. Install them woofers backwards, man...
Now, where're the danged Doritos, dude?
In (some) seriousness, there are all kinds of whacky alignments as many of y'all know -- push-pull drivers, multi-chambered baffles (cabinets), and whatnot.
I am sure it's not an example of a minor QC lapse, or medicinal marijuana use, for that matter.
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Looking at photos of the Resolution on their website, there is a third woofer (an innie) above the two outties in the lower unit.
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actually the to bottom outies are 4 drivers in a cone to cone Isobaric config
1 x 25mm ( 1") Wilson Benesch Semisphere tweeter
1 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Midrange drive unit
1 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Upper Bass drive unit
4 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Isobaric bass drive units2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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No argument. I read the review with some interest regarding the isobaric configuration. The ask is at least one order of magnitude higher than my limit.
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No argument. I read the review with some interest regarding the isobaric configuration. The ask is at least one order of magnitude higher than my limit.
Yeah I needed some more splainin' for myself. Even more info on isobaric driver configs which I only new existed in subwoofer
Wilson's are above my paygrade too2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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txcoastal1 wrote: »actually the to bottom outies are 4 drivers in a cone to cone Isobaric config
1 x 25mm ( 1") Wilson Benesch Semisphere tweeter
1 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Midrange drive unit
1 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Upper Bass drive unit
4 x 170mm ( 7") Wilson Benesch Tactic II Isobaric bass drive units
Isobaric! I was grasping for the term, but I was too lazy to look it up! Thanks.
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This might just be quite possibly the ugliest, cheapest looking, dumbest idea ever for a grill.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Must be sonus faber- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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GamuT RS3i
Tom
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Joseph audio had something similar on one of their lines
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This might just be quite possibly the ugliest, cheapest looking, dumbest idea ever for a grill.
Tom
Give's the audiophile's house mice a way to exercise.
It's no worse (and no better) than some of the horrific "finger protectors" put on vacuum tube amplifiers nowadays, I'd opine (and FWIW).
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Eh, those I can understand. They are there for safety and shouldn't impact the sound. To have metal in front of the drivers that can radiate excitement when certain frequencies hit, while at the same time? Produce unwanted reflections/refractions?
I don't think so, Scooter.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Eh, those I can understand. They are there for safety and shouldn't impact the sound. To have metal in front of the drivers that can radiate excitement when certain frequencies hit, while at the same time? Produce unwanted reflections/refractions?
I don't think so, Scooter.
Tom
Sure the back parts aren't bungie cords?
That is what Sonus Faber uses...fabric covered rubber bands, essentially. Not like it is any better, just fairly certain that's what they use...
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Yup, that's what they be...
"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Perhaps they were purposely designed so the significant other can say, “Oh, your speakers look so much better without those thingies. Why don’t you leave them off?”
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Me thinks maybe maxward is onto sumphin' here....
To have a metal bar....in front of the drivers (even if off to the sides) will cause reflections and refractions that will smear the imaging. They may not ring with excitement if the bands are kept in place but the bands themself absorb wave energy. Admitted, that (absorbed wave energy) may not be audible but the sound will most definitely radiate off of the metal.
Gotta give credit where credit is due though. They are ugly....I'll give them that.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Phil had these AAD 2001 monitors. I had the pleasure of hearing them a few times...absolutely fantastic! No issues with the metal bar grills.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Those did sound really good- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Were the grills ever taken off?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Those Gamut tweeters look incredibly similar to some far less costly ones that measure extremely well. 😉CD Players: Sony CDP-211; Sony DVP-S9000ES; Sony UDP-X800M2 (x2); Cambridge Audio CXC
DACs: Jolida Glass FX Tube DAC III (x2); Denafrips Ares II (x2)
Streamers: ROKU (x3); Bluesound Node 2i and Node N130 w/LHY LPS // Receivers: Yamaha RX-V775BT; Yamaha RX-V777
Preamps: B&K Ref 50; B&K Ref 5 S2; Classe CP-800 MkII; Audio Research SP16L (soon)
Amps: Niles SI-275; B&K ST125.7; B&K ST125.2; Classe CA-2300; Butler Audio TDB-5150
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Turntable: Dual 721 Direct-Drive w/Audio Technica AT-VM95e cart
Cables: Tripp-lite 14ga. PCs, Blue Jeans Cable ICs, Philips PXT1000 ICs; Kimber Kable DV30 coaxial ICs; Canare L-4E6S XLR ICs; Kimber Kable 8PR & 8TC speaker cables. -
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Them’s some serious lookin’ stands!
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Them’s some serious lookin’ stands!
The walls of the speakers have lead sheets sandwiched between the inner and outer walls. Heavy MF's.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
The lead is probably a great idea unless you need to move or ship them.
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Somebody done whacked them suckas wif a ugly stick, though.
Yeah, I know... de gustibus non est disputandum... but, still...
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Primaluna stuff looks better without the cage. Speaking of, they don't get much love around these parts and I'm kinda wondering why.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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I don't even know anyone who owns a Primaluna anything. Wouldn't mind getting my ears on a unit.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Mike in greenville runs primaluna- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Sweet! I'll follow back up with Mark and see if he is still on the road to better health. If he isn't, maybe we can just do a day at Mike's for the next GTG.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
