New Pre-Amp purchase advice

Helping a friend* decide upon a new pre-amp purchase - current pre amp, a Meitner PA-6i is RIP. I thank you in advance the knowledgeable members of the Polk forum to offer good advice.
*he got me into this crazy hobby over 40 years ago!

Budget: Around $1K, give or take. He’s considering a new $700 Adcom GFP-815 but open to suggestions. Primary interest: a TT input for low output MC cartridges. Other line inputs needed too.

Remaining system components: Mission 775SM TT with Audioquest 404i cartridge, Krell KSA 100 MkII power amp driving Thiel CS 3.5’s.”

1000 thanks in advance, Tony
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered

LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
Power Conditioning & Distribution:
3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 9,554
    edited November 20
    How about a modded Dared MC-7P? Has phono preamp & dual pre outs.

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    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 973
    Will this handle the low-output of the Audioquest?^^^
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,845
    @TroyD has that adcom pre in the fs section
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 12,742
    THE Adcom to own s the GFP 750.....at the price I’m dealing at, you can pick up a nice outboard phono stage and still come in under budget
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,723
    On behalf of my friend, Me-da-WAH-see*.

    He’s in the market for a new pre-amp. I asked for advice for the same.

    Grazie - Italian for thank you.

    *language of Ghana: “I thank you!”

    Have a great Thanksgiving.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
    CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
    5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 12,742
    edited November 20
    Well then you are in the wrong place......I took new as in “new to me”.......specificity and context are important
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,091
    To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 720
    edited November 21
    To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!

    That it is, I think it would be near impossible to find a new preamp that sounds as good at this price point.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,091
    ^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,723
    To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!

    That it is, I think it would be near impossible to find a new preamp that sounds as good at this price point.[/quote]

    Not my call but I’ll pass along your opinions.

    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
    CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
    5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • Yeah, just to clear, I would generally prefer “freshly manufactured,” if you like. I want to have a warranty. (I’m the “friend” Tony mentioned in his opening post. I’ve opened an account of my own.

    Thanks!
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 3,723
    Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Belles 350A Reference modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January.

    by Dr. Sardonicus
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,677
    Eclexian wrote: »
    Yeah, just to clear, I would generally prefer “freshly manufactured,” if you like. I want to have a warranty. (I’m the “friend” Tony mentioned in his opening post. I’ve opened an account of my own.

    Thanks!
    Welcome to Club Polk. I have 2 questions;
    1 - Is a remote a requirement?
    2 - Do you want a tubed pre or a SS pre?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~

    ~ I have found excellence ~

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

  • Thanks for asking, Tom. A remote would be very nice, but is not an absolute requirement; and preference is for solid-state over tubes.
  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 973
    Solid state, with a remote and a warranty: Schiit Freya S for $599. Then add a phono stage of your choice. Troy’s Adcom if you can live without the warranty.
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,723
    I’ve been a member of this forum about 13 years. This is first time in several years I’ve had to deal w/pettiness at this level. I’ve relied upon Polkie’s for sound advice on… sound for 13 years. I’m not criticizing the value of the sale item. Only the seller’s attitude.

    Let’s re-visit the OP:

    The words “new & advice” were in the subject line

    In the OP body…
    [I was] Helping a friend” decide upon a new* pre-amp purchase…
    (there is that* word again)

    I thank you in advance the knowledgeable members of the Polk forum to offer good advice*. (there is that* word again)

    Budget: Around $1K, give or take. He’s considering a new* $700 Adcom GFP-815… (there is that* word again)

    New appeared 3 times, advice appeared twice - who’s the villain Troy?
    TroyD wrote: »
    Well then you are in the wrong place....
    wrong place for advice?! Is this the Polk Forum or Troy’s Forum?
    TroyD wrote: »
    I took new as in “new to me”.......
    your fault for not asking for clarification.
    TroyD wrote: »
    specificity and context are important
    so is reading carefully before going off half cocked.

    GLWTS Troy. From the others that chimed in, I have no doubt someone will get a great deal

    Have a great Thanksgiving & Christmas
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
    CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
    5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 9,554
    I'm an idiot.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 3,723
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm an idiot.

    Don't beat yourself up. We all knew that but didn't have the heart to tell you. :D
    Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Belles 350A Reference modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January.

    by Dr. Sardonicus
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 3,723
    Well I suppose I'll admit that too. On a happier note, how about this one?

    https://www.marantz.com/en-us/product/amplifiers/pm6007
    Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Belles 350A Reference modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January.

    by Dr. Sardonicus
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,091
    maxward wrote: »
    Solid state, with a remote and a warranty: Schiit Freya S for $599. Then add a phono stage of your choice. Troy’s Adcom if you can live without the warranty.

    Was that comment really necessary?
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 12,742
    edited November 23
    Look man, 93.2% of the gear that is discussed, recommended and circulated around here is used. Previously titled. Already enjoyed and out of warranty. So “new” doesn’t automatically equate to factory fresh. So, yeah, the question is a easily misunderstood. My point being, if you have specific parameters.....spell them out. I didn’t really mean anything assholish by the comment but if it put your bloomers in a bunch, by all means.....pound sand and kick rocks. I’m losing .03 seconds over it.
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 973
    edited November 23
    Not worth it…
    Post edited by maxward on
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,723
    maxward wrote: »
    …Troy’s Adcom if you can live without the warranty.

    Was that comment really necessary?
    Maxward thought so.

    My friend’s warranty requirement is clear. He intimated to me by text: his NEW pre-amp must check the “warranty” box.

    Maxward must like to beat a dead horse.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
    CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
    5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,798
    What was the issue with his comment? He suggested new gear, and used gear.
    Lumin X1 file player; Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,723
    edited November 24
    TroyD wrote: »
    Look man, 93.2% of the gear that is discussed, recommended and circulated around here is used. Previously titled. Already enjoyed and out of warranty. So “new” doesn’t automatically equate to factory fresh. So, yeah, the question is a easily misunderstood. My point being, if you have specific parameters.....spell them out. I didn’t really mean anything assholish by the comment but if it put your bloomers in a bunch, by all means.....pound sand and kick rocks. I’m losing .03 seconds over it.
    You could have & should have “walked” away. Instead…

    93.2%?! Are you the Forum advice & sales statistician?

    Are you also the Forum “Advice” rule maker?
    “Rule 1. When asking for advice, you must say…”

    Or did someone die and leave you in charge of statistics and advice rules?

    Again “Advice was in the subject line and the MSG body as “good advice. “Advice” was in my POLITE follow up:

    “On behalf of my friend, Me-da-WAH-see*.

    He’s in the market for a new pre-amp. I asked for advice for the same.

    Grazie - Italian for thank you.

    *language of Ghana: “I thank you!”

    Have a great Thanksgiving.”

    Then you had your meltdown. I did not so much as hint he might be interested in your Adcom, just advice. You assumed, then took it personally. Own up to it and move on.

    The others confirmed it a great deal. You’ll sell it. Just not on your schedule. Christmas is too close for most people.

    Take it easy. GLWTS

    Have a great Thanksgiving and a better Christmas.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Phillips CD chgr, various game consoles

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside* & CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Mids & Tweets- 981
    CC: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6
    5 Subs: Sunfire True Sub Signature -> LFE & CC & 4 Audio Pro Evidence Subs
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,988
    edited November 24
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,363
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    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,363
    For what it's worth, this is the internet in case some forgot and at times we lose the meaning behind comments. Troy, if anyone ever got a chance to know him and his posting style, doesn't do as shole responses and especially for no reason.

    Just sayin....
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's