New Pre-Amp purchase advice
gp4jesus
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Helping a friend* decide upon a new pre-amp purchase - current pre amp, a Meitner PA-6i is RIP. I thank you in advance the knowledgeable members of the Polk forum to offer good advice.
*he got me into this crazy hobby over 40 years ago!
Budget: Around $1K, give or take. He’s considering a new $700 Adcom GFP-815 but open to suggestions. Primary interest: a TT input for low output MC cartridges. Other line inputs needed too.
Remaining system components: Mission 775SM TT with Audioquest 404i cartridge, Krell KSA 100 MkII power amp driving Thiel CS 3.5’s.”
1000 thanks in advance, Tony
*he got me into this crazy hobby over 40 years ago!
Budget: Around $1K, give or take. He’s considering a new $700 Adcom GFP-815 but open to suggestions. Primary interest: a TT input for low output MC cartridges. Other line inputs needed too.
Remaining system components: Mission 775SM TT with Audioquest 404i cartridge, Krell KSA 100 MkII power amp driving Thiel CS 3.5’s.”
1000 thanks in advance, Tony
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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How about a modded Dared MC-7P? Has phono preamp & dual pre outs.
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Will this handle the low-output of the Audioquest?^^^
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@TroyD has that adcom pre in the fs section- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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THE Adcom to own s the GFP 750.....at the price I’m dealing at, you can pick up a nice outboard phono stage and still come in under budgetI plan for the future. - F1Nut
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On behalf of my friend, Me-da-WAH-see*.
He’s in the market for a new pre-amp. I asked for advice for the same.
Grazie - Italian for thank you.
*language of Ghana: “I thank you!”
Have a great Thanksgiving.Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Well then you are in the wrong place......I took new as in “new to me”.......specificity and context are importantI plan for the future. - F1Nut
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To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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george daniel wrote: »To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!
That it is, I think it would be near impossible to find a new preamp that sounds as good at this price point. -
^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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george daniel wrote: »To the original poster,, seriously consider the Adcom that Troy has,,it is that good!
That it is, I think it would be near impossible to find a new preamp that sounds as good at this price point.[/quote]
Not my call but I’ll pass along your opinions.
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Yeah, just to clear, I would generally prefer “freshly manufactured,” if you like. I want to have a warranty. (I’m the “friend” Tony mentioned in his opening post. I’ve opened an account of my own.
Thanks! -
Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
Yeah, just to clear, I would generally prefer “freshly manufactured,” if you like. I want to have a warranty. (I’m the “friend” Tony mentioned in his opening post. I’ve opened an account of my own.
Thanks!
1 - Is a remote a requirement?
2 - Do you want a tubed pre or a SS pre?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Thanks for asking, Tom. A remote would be very nice, but is not an absolute requirement; and preference is for solid-state over tubes.
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Solid state, with a remote and a warranty: Schiit Freya S for $599. Then add a phono stage of your choice. Troy’s Adcom if you can live without the warranty.
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I’ve been a member of this forum about 13 years. This is first time in several years I’ve had to deal w/pettiness at this level. I’ve relied upon Polkie’s for sound advice on… sound for 13 years. I’m not criticizing the value of the sale item. Only the seller’s attitude.
Let’s re-visit the OP:
The words “new & advice” were in the subject line
In the OP body…
[I was] Helping a friend” decide upon a new* pre-amp purchase…
(there is that* word again)
I thank you in advance the knowledgeable members of the Polk forum to offer good advice*. (there is that* word again)
Budget: Around $1K, give or take. He’s considering a new* $700 Adcom GFP-815… (there is that* word again)
New appeared 3 times, advice appeared twice - who’s the villain Troy?Well then you are in the wrong place....I took new as in “new to me”.......specificity and context are important
GLWTS Troy. From the others that chimed in, I have no doubt someone will get a great deal
Have a great Thanksgiving & ChristmasSamsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
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I'm an idiot.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
I'm an idiot.
Don't beat yourself up. We all knew that but didn't have the heart to tell you.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
Well I suppose I'll admit that too. On a happier note, how about this one?
https://www.marantz.com/en-us/product/amplifiers/pm6007Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
He's looking for a preamp and you suggested an integrated that doesn't even have pre-outs.
Maybe cut back on the drunk posting. -
Solid state, with a remote and a warranty: Schiit Freya S for $599. Then add a phono stage of your choice. Troy’s Adcom if you can live without the warranty.
Was that comment really necessary?JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
Look man, 93.2% of the gear that is discussed, recommended and circulated around here is used. Previously titled. Already enjoyed and out of warranty. So “new” doesn’t automatically equate to factory fresh. So, yeah, the question is a easily misunderstood. My point being, if you have specific parameters.....spell them out. I didn’t really mean anything assholish by the comment but if it put your bloomers in a bunch, by all means.....pound sand and kick rocks. I’m losing .03 seconds over it.I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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george daniel wrote: »
My friend’s warranty requirement is clear. He intimated to me by text: his NEW pre-amp must check the “warranty” box.
Maxward must like to beat a dead horse.Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
What was the issue with his comment? He suggested new gear, and used gear.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Look man, 93.2% of the gear that is discussed, recommended and circulated around here is used. Previously titled. Already enjoyed and out of warranty. So “new” doesn’t automatically equate to factory fresh. So, yeah, the question is a easily misunderstood. My point being, if you have specific parameters.....spell them out. I didn’t really mean anything assholish by the comment but if it put your bloomers in a bunch, by all means.....pound sand and kick rocks. I’m losing .03 seconds over it.
93.2%?! Are you the Forum advice & sales statistician?
Are you also the Forum “Advice” rule maker?
“Rule 1. When asking for advice, you must say…”
Or did someone die and leave you in charge of statistics and advice rules?
Again “Advice was in the subject line and the MSG body as “good advice. “Advice” was in my POLITE follow up:
“On behalf of my friend, Me-da-WAH-see*.
He’s in the market for a new pre-amp. I asked for advice for the same.
Grazie - Italian for thank you.
*language of Ghana: “I thank you!”
Have a great Thanksgiving.”
Then you had your meltdown. I did not so much as hint he might be interested in your Adcom, just advice. You assumed, then took it personally. Own up to it and move on.
The others confirmed it a great deal. You’ll sell it. Just not on your schedule. Christmas is too close for most people.
Take it easy. GLWTS
Have a great Thanksgiving and a better Christmas.Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
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Sony 850c 4k
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Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
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For what it's worth, this is the internet in case some forgot and at times we lose the meaning behind comments. Troy, if anyone ever got a chance to know him and his posting style, doesn't do as shole responses and especially for no reason.
Just sayin....HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's