Looking for a ~$2k tube preamp
dr1978
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Having gotten just a taste of tube life with my recently expired Belles 21a (my local tech didn't want any part of repairing it. he said the vast majority of it would have to be replaced) I am now on the lookout for a tube preamp to purchase. I wouldn't be opposed to buying used, but I am a little gun shy after the last one.
I have started to narrow in on the following two pieces. Unfortunately the search function isn't working so I can't do any research here, but let me know if any of you have experience with either of these, or have any suggestions based on what's out there right now in my price range. HT Bypass is a must.
PrimaLuna Prologue
Black Ice (formerly Jolida) F360
Thanks!
I have started to narrow in on the following two pieces. Unfortunately the search function isn't working so I can't do any research here, but let me know if any of you have experience with either of these, or have any suggestions based on what's out there right now in my price range. HT Bypass is a must.
PrimaLuna Prologue
Black Ice (formerly Jolida) F360
Thanks!
Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra
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I too am interested in Primaluna gear but have yet to pull the trigger on a tube pre. Another member here suggested the Cary Audio SLP-98 and upon digging into it you may want to add it to your short list. Used you can find them in the low 2k range.Rega Planar 8, Apheta 3 MC , Aria mk2 Phono
Aurender n100h, Benchmark DAC2 HGC
Arcam SR250, Parasound JC5
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Oh good call. I do remember seeing a couple of them on the various sites in that range not long ago. I know they're well thought of here. I think this might be a case where the age of the amp creeps into my thoughts though. At least I'm assuming that any in the market would be aged quite a bit, but I guess I'm not sure when/if they've stopped production. I might do some digging..Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra
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A used dehavilland ultraverve 3 or Audio Research SP16Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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Looks like I was clearly mistaken on the Cary, since they are still producing them. I'd imagine any of them hitting the used market have a bit of age on them though.
Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra -
A used dehavilland ultraverve 3 or Audio Research SP16
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look.Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra -
Are you looking for sound quality, reliability, brand recognition or resale value? I have found that small boutique tube gear designers, such as Aric Audio, Don Sachs, or space tech labs make way better sounding reliable tube preamps than brand name tube gear, especially within your budget.
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Definitely sound quality and reliability. I don't care about brand recognition whatsoever, and I am hoping this is a once a decade purchase, so I'm not too concerned about resale.
Too bad I wasn't ready to make this jump last fall when jdjohn had his Don Sachs for sale. Thanks for those suggestions though, adding them to the list.Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra -
Well, my Don Sachs didn't have HT by-pass, and Don doesn't offer that as an option anymore on new builds. You *might* find an older, used build that has it.
You might also check-out Mapletree Audio Design https://www.mapletreeaudio.com/ Their line-level preamp has HT by-pass, and is priced WELL under your budget...like $800 stock."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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Well, my Don Sachs didn't have HT by-pass, and Don doesn't offer that as an option anymore on new builds. You *might* find an older, used build that has it.
You might also check-out Mapletree Audio Design https://www.mapletreeaudio.com/ Their line-level preamp has HT by-pass, and is priced WELL under your budget...like $800 stock.
Cool, thanks, that looks really interesting!Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra -
Odyssey Audio Candela. A bit hard to find used now as those that have them aren’t letting go.Aaron
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https://www.audioasylum.com/reviews/Preamplifier-Tube/Space-Tech-Laboratory/QA-115-REG/tubes/140948.html
Here is Don Sachs review of space tech labs preamp, he used to own one. You have to scroll down the page to get to the preamp review, because there is a space tech labs amp review along with the preamp. Space tech will build you a preamp with HT bypass. -
There is a BAT vk 3i out there on US Audiomart which may interest you for 1750. I messaged the seller a couple times and he seems very forthcoming with information. Also, FWIW....I would be willing to sell my Cary slp 03 to a Polkie to purchase this...drop me a PM.
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Check out some of AVA’s(Audio by Van Alstine) offerings. I believe all of his preamps are able to have HT bypass added when ordering new.
Not super flashy but great hand built quality. They don’t get a ton of press but are pretty much universally known to punch way above their price point.
I’m running an AVA Transcendence 10SL tube preamp currently. Betters other preamps that I’ve paid twice as much for. -
Cary 98Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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Consider my 98. I haven’t bumped her in a while. The thread should still be accessible 😳AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
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Well it was fun researching all of those smaller manufacturers, but in the end I couldn't pass up the Cary!Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra
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NICE! Did you end up with an SLP-98 or another varient?Rega Planar 8, Apheta 3 MC , Aria mk2 Phono
Aurender n100h, Benchmark DAC2 HGC
Arcam SR250, Parasound JC5
Revel F208, SVS SB-4000 -
@GlennDog's SLP-98Pro-ject 2 Experience SB, OPPO BDP-103, Marantz SR5011, Lounge LCR MKIII, McCormack DNA-HT5, Polk LSiM705, Polk LSiM706C, Polk LSiM702, SVS SB16-Ultra
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Congrats to both parties. Let us know what you think after you’ve had som time with that beauty.